Untucked jersey technical!

[Nevadaref]

My feeling is that officials in small communities have it tough. They have to see all of those people in the store and around town the next day. They have to work with the parents and go to church with the families. So they certainly hear about whatever decisions they make, especially the ones that don't favor the home team. Also, if the official has kids, they hear about what dad called from the other kids at school. It can't be pleasant.

If I moved to a small town, I wouldn't call there.

[Ed Maeder]

Many of these villages are very small and put who ever they can get to officiate on the court. As Nevada has said they have to live there. Can get pretty involved. A lot of these people are not even certified. That is why when we send people to work games in these communities we are so appreciated. It is a whole different world then most of us realize.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Ed Maeder

That is why when we send people to work games in these communities we are so appreciated.

Depends on who wins.

"You guys suck!! I liked it better when my brother-in-law was the ref!"

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My feeling is that officials in small communities have it tough. They have to see all of those people in the store and around town the next day. They have to work with the parents and go to church with the families. So they certainly hear about whatever decisions they make, especially the ones that don't favor the home team. Also, if the official has kids, they hear about what dad called from the other kids at school. It can't be pleasant.

If I moved to a small town, I wouldn't call there.

I agree, completely. The pressures would be enormous. On top of that, in those areas where travel between cities isn't exactly simple, not calling in your home town wouldn't really be an option.

My next question for the coach here would be whether he felt both officials were homers, or just the one?

[EndEx]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My feeling is that officials in small communities have it tough. They have to see all of those people in the store and around town the next day. They have to work with the parents and go to church with the families. So they certainly hear about whatever decisions they make, especially the ones that don't favor the home team. Also, if the official has kids, they hear about what dad called from the other kids at school. It can't be pleasant.

If I moved to a small town, I wouldn't call there.

My brother tried working baseball when he was stationed in HI and was frustrated by the islander/non-islander attitude from the native officials. Granted, this is the perspective of someone who hasn't really officated much, but I think the "us vs. them" attitude is the same, as is the social pressure from friends and family outside of officiating. Sometimes we like to think of officiating and our decisions on the court in some sort of basketball vacuum; but that's not the case.

[QuinhagakBall]

Mick,

Your right, I had no idea for sure. My thought at the time of the "T" was where was the warning??

But without a rule book on hand - I couldn't be sure enough to argue.

Later, in the next game, my player was asked to tuck in. In this case however the shirt was just loose and NOT untucked at all. My player showed the ref this, and he said, "tuck it in, or its a technical" Here I had an argument and pretty much gave it to him. He put me on the repeater, saying "look in the rule book", "its in the rule book" over and over

So here I am


Now, to the question if he was cheating, I told my wife somebody would say that! hahahaha
IDK I would say that. Was he showing favor, yes. How could he not for many of the reasons mentioned. He lives in the village, works at the school etc. WOuld I work games in my own hometown??, no - but these are cards we are dealt out here. Only for the League Tournament, District tournament are refs flown in.

All that said, there were two referees on the court and the 2nd in this case called a decent game. That in its self makes the flaws of the other guy stand out even more. As a coach all you want to know is was your team was good enough or not. You don't want to leave the talking about a ref. I am sure you all feel the same. AND that hasn't been the case 95% of time otherwise I wouldn't coach through that kind of BS - even out here.

[just another ref]

Not to overstate the obvious, but I'll do it anyway. If I understand correctly, you are dealing with local hometown officials, and are concerned about the possibility of bias. Having heard all that, the one fact that is certain is that in reviewing the game, the calls, and anything else, one person who has every reason to be biased is YOU. Can you be completely objective about things concerning your own team? People tend to see what they want to see. Is the hometown thing true when your team plays at home?

Sometimes one team seems to get "all the calls." Sometimes there simply is no reason for this perception. I have on more than one occasion said "This calling seemed one-sided to me........and I was one of the ones doing it."

Go figure.