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Old Mon Feb 01, 2010, 05:28am
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Coach,
As your research has revealed the correct sanction is to direct the player to leave the game and require a substitute, if the shirt is out. If the player is to attempt FTs, then the procedure outlined in the first Case Book play listed below would be followed.
The only way that I could envision an official assessing a technical foul for this would be if the official directed the player to tuck in his jersey and then the player defiantly pulled it out again. That could be construed as unsporting conduct, but it is a stretch. Also pulling out the shirt in an act of disrespect or disgust for a call made by an official would be worthy of a T as noted in the final Case Book play below.


DIRECTED TO LEAVE GAME – UNIFORM
3.3.5 SITUATION: B1 fouls A1. Just before A1 goes to the line for a one-andone,
the official observes: (a) A1 pull the shirt out of his/her pants; or (b) A1’s
pants being worn below the hips. RULING: In both (a) and (b), A1 will be directed
to put the shirt in the pants or pull up the pants, and must leave the game
immediately following his/her last free throw(s). The lane is cleared for the free
throw and Team B is awarded the ball for a throw-in, whether or not the last free
throw is successful.

10.4.1 SITUATION D: A1 commits his/her fifth foul and is disqualified. On the
way to the team bench, A1 removes his/her shirt or pulls it over their face: (a)
before the coach is notified; or (b) after the coach is notified. RULING: In (a) and
(b), a technical foul is charged to A1. In (b), an indirect technical foul is also
charged to the head as A1 is considered to be bench personnel. (10-4-1h)
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2010, 07:31pm
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Thank you guys for your confirmation. This is just one of those situations where, as a visiting team, we were at the mercy of this certain referee for both games. Unfortunate for the players. This situation alone could have been a potential 8 point swing and that's just this situation. Painfully obvious where this school's employee affiliation was. Thanks again, I'll stop now, before my blood starts boiling again.

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Old Mon Feb 01, 2010, 09:17pm
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your in Alaska, your blood shouldn't boil. Or Perhaps Palin was doing the game.
I remember thinking it might be a T after a couple of warnings but then saw that they would have to leave the game. As mentioned only a T in a very unusual case.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2010, 11:15pm
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Thank you guys for your confirmation. This is just one of those situations where, as a visiting team, we were at the mercy of this certain referee for both games. Unfortunate for the players. This situation alone could have been a potential 8 point swing and that's just this situation. Painfully obvious where this school's employee affiliation was. Thanks again, I'll stop now, before my blood starts boiling again.

Jim
Are you suggesting this particular official was cheating? I ask because you specify that the visiting team was at his mercy.
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Old Tue Feb 02, 2010, 12:22am
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Are you suggesting this particular official was cheating? I ask because you specify that the visiting team was at his mercy.
In many places the officials from some of the smaller areas have been known to favor the home team. It is particularly suspicious if the officials are hired by the school AD and not assigned through an association.
In states with vast open spaces between the communities, such as Alaska, it can be very difficult to for the visiting team.
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Old Tue Feb 02, 2010, 12:56am
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In many places the officials from some of the smaller areas have been known to favor the home team. It is particularly suspicious if the officials are hired by the school AD and not assigned through an association.
In states with vast open spaces between the communities, such as Alaska, it can be very difficult to for the visiting team.
I know, I was just wondering if that's what he was getting at.

Some areas in the midwest hire their officials directly, I know my first varsity assignment was just such a deal, so I wouldn't call that arrangement particularly suspicious; unless you're referencing those areas predisposed towards that anyway.
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Old Tue Feb 02, 2010, 01:26am
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Cheating, like many other things, is often in the eye of the beholder. I have called countless jr. high games within a 15 mile radius of my home. Supporters of all the other schools have said that I call in favor of my home school. Supporter of the home school have said that I overcompensated and called against that school. etc. etc.
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Old Tue Feb 02, 2010, 01:48am
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My feeling is that officials in small communities have it tough. They have to see all of those people in the store and around town the next day. They have to work with the parents and go to church with the families. So they certainly hear about whatever decisions they make, especially the ones that don't favor the home team. Also, if the official has kids, they hear about what dad called from the other kids at school. It can't be pleasant.

If I moved to a small town, I wouldn't call there.
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Thank you guys for your confirmation. This is just one of those situations where, as a visiting team, we were at the mercy of this certain referee for both games. Unfortunate for the players. This situation alone could have been a potential 8 point swing and that's just this situation. Painfully obvious where this school's employee affiliation was. Thanks again, I'll stop now, before my blood starts boiling again.

Jim
Coach,
Although you seem to have seen a pattern of inconsistency, the possibility remains that official, in the case of the jersey, knew the rule no better than anyone else in the gym.

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