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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 05:19pm
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I drive by the Academy often; never the same after that story.
And everyone picks on the Marines....
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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 05:23pm
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And everyone picks on the Marines....
Yep. Always will; with respect.

I've known too many pilots to be overly surprised by this story.
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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 05:30pm
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Yep. Always will; with respect.
Of course, and as a puke civilian, my respect goes out to all that have served. My grandfather was a career Marine so I have a special place in my heart for them.
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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 05:27pm
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And everyone picks on the Marines....
Well technically, there used to be only 2 Armed Forces: Army & Navy.

Air Force used to be the Army Air Corps. The Marines used to be an extension of the Navy.

Now there's 5 Armed Forces: Navy, Army, Air Force, Marines, & Coast Guard.
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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 05:32pm
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Well technically, there used to be only 2 Armed Forces: Army & Navy.
Really? Go on. Tell me more about Tun Tavern.

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The Marines used to be an extension of the Navy.
Used to be? I bet there are a lot of Sailors and Marines that will be happy to hear that.
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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 05:41pm
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Well technically, there used to be only 2 Armed Forces: Army & Navy.

Air Force used to be the Army Air Corps. The Marines used to be an extension of the Navy.

Now there's 5 Armed Forces: Navy, Army, Air Force, Marines, & Coast Guard.
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Used to be? I bet there are a lot of Sailors and Marines that will be happy to hear that.
All right, Eagleboy, brief history.
The USAF came out of the Army Air Corps, you're correct.

The Marines, however, are still considered, at the very top, part of the US Navy. Ask any Navy Corpsman, or marine stationed on security detail at a Naval base. Just don't ask them to share a meal together.

Good grief, man, don't you watch NCIS? (I know J.A.G. is before your time).

The Coast Guard is not considered military; they're currently under DHS. Don't let their .mil address or rank structure fool you. They can be militarized if necessary, however.

So, truthfully, we currently have three branches, not five. Just don't tell a marine he's a sailor.
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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 05:44pm
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The Coast Guard is not considered military; they're currently under DHS. Don't let their .mil address or rank structure fool you. They can be militarized if necessary, however.
Just asking from my limited understanding, isn't the Coast Guard considered military (either independent or absorbed into the Navy) while in a warzone?
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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 05:52pm
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Just asking from my limited understanding, isn't the Coast Guard considered military (either independent or absorbed into the Navy) while in a warzone?
It can be absorbed by the Navy in times of war, but I don't think it's automatic. I'm pretty sure congress or the President have to actively make it happen.
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Actually before 9/11 the Coast Guard was a joint operation between the Department of Transportation & the Navy.

After 9/11, it's a joint operation between the Navy & Homeland Security.

My father has a Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal from when he was in the Navy when working on Drug Ops with the Coast Guard.

True USMC still has ties to the Navy, security details at bases & onbaord ships. However they are considered a separate entity now.

What about Judge Advocate General?? It's not before my time. How can the show J.A.G. be before my time when I'm turning 29 in April?

The Coast Guard only operates within US Waters, however it is considered a separate entity from the Navy, although it falls under the Navy's umbrella. It still has a separate command.
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All right, Eagleboy, brief history.
The USAF came out of the Army Air Corps, you're correct.

The Marines, however, are still considered, at the very top, part of the US Navy. Ask any Navy Corpsman, or marine stationed on security detail at a Naval base. Just don't ask them to share a meal together.

Good grief, man, don't you watch NCIS? (I know J.A.G. is before your time).

The Coast Guard is not considered military; they're currently under DHS. Don't let their .mil address or rank structure fool you. They can be militarized if necessary, however.

So, truthfully, we currently have three branches, not five. Just don't tell a marine he's a sailor.
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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 05:59pm
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The Coast Guard only operates within US Waters
You may want to ask the Coast Guard what they were doing in Iraq then.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/coastguard/a/uscgwar.htm

Snaqs, gotcha, thanks.
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Old Fri Feb 12, 2010, 06:01pm
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Actually before 9/11 the Coast Guard was a joint operation between the Department of Transportation & the Navy.

After 9/11, it's a joint operation between the Navy & Homeland Security.

My father has a Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal from when he was in the Navy when working on Drug Ops with the Coast Guard.

True USMC still has ties to the Navy, security details at bases & onbaord ships. However they are considered a separate entity now.

What about Judge Advocate General?? It's not before my time. How can the show J.A.G. be before my time when I'm turning 29 in April?

The Coast Guard only operates within US Waters, however it is considered a separate entity from the Navy, although it falls under the Navy's umbrella. It still has a separate command.
I should clarify, I'm defining military as under the direction of the Department of Defense. It only goes under the DOD (Dept of the Navy) when congress or the president so directs.

Could you tell me when the Marine Corps became it's own entity separate from the Department of the Navy? Has the Naval Academy stopped providing Marine officers?
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All right, Eagleboy, brief history.
The USAF came out of the Army Air Corps, you're correct.

The Marines, however, are still considered, at the very top, part of the US Navy. Ask any Navy Corpsman, or marine stationed on security detail at a Naval base. Just don't ask them to share a meal together.

Good grief, man, don't you watch NCIS? (I know J.A.G. is before your time).

The Coast Guard is not considered military; they're currently under DHS. Don't let their .mil address or rank structure fool you. They can be militarized if necessary, however.

So, truthfully, we currently have three branches, not five. Just don't tell a marine he's a sailor.

But all the branches drive ambulances and talk about farming on their cell phones.
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