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Welpe Fri Feb 12, 2010 05:32pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 661317)
Well technically, there used to be only 2 Armed Forces: Army & Navy.

Really? Go on. Tell me more about Tun Tavern.

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The Marines used to be an extension of the Navy.
Used to be? I bet there are a lot of Sailors and Marines that will be happy to hear that.

Adam Fri Feb 12, 2010 05:41pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 661317)
Well technically, there used to be only 2 Armed Forces: Army & Navy.

Air Force used to be the Army Air Corps. The Marines used to be an extension of the Navy.

Now there's 5 Armed Forces: Navy, Army, Air Force, Marines, & Coast Guard.

LOL

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 661322)
Really? Go on. Tell me more about Tun Tavern.



Used to be? I bet there are a lot of Sailors and Marines that will be happy to hear that.

All right, Eagleboy, brief history.
The USAF came out of the Army Air Corps, you're correct.

The Marines, however, are still considered, at the very top, part of the US Navy. Ask any Navy Corpsman, or marine stationed on security detail at a Naval base. Just don't ask them to share a meal together. ;)

Good grief, man, don't you watch NCIS? (I know J.A.G. is before your time).

The Coast Guard is not considered military; they're currently under DHS. Don't let their .mil address or rank structure fool you. They can be militarized if necessary, however.

So, truthfully, we currently have three branches, not five. Just don't tell a marine he's a sailor.

Welpe Fri Feb 12, 2010 05:44pm

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The Coast Guard is not considered military; they're currently under DHS. Don't let their .mil address or rank structure fool you. They can be militarized if necessary, however.
Just asking from my limited understanding, isn't the Coast Guard considered military (either independent or absorbed into the Navy) while in a warzone?

Adam Fri Feb 12, 2010 05:52pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 661325)
Just asking from my limited understanding, isn't the Coast Guard considered military (either independent or absorbed into the Navy) while in a warzone?

It can be absorbed by the Navy in times of war, but I don't think it's automatic. I'm pretty sure congress or the President have to actively make it happen.

Mark Padgett Fri Feb 12, 2010 05:53pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 661306)
my wife & I have been rotating this year

I think you're on the wrong discussion board. :eek:

chseagle Fri Feb 12, 2010 05:56pm

Actually before 9/11 the Coast Guard was a joint operation between the Department of Transportation & the Navy.

After 9/11, it's a joint operation between the Navy & Homeland Security.

My father has a Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal from when he was in the Navy when working on Drug Ops with the Coast Guard.

True USMC still has ties to the Navy, security details at bases & onbaord ships. However they are considered a separate entity now.

What about Judge Advocate General?? It's not before my time. How can the show J.A.G. be before my time when I'm turning 29 in April?

The Coast Guard only operates within US Waters, however it is considered a separate entity from the Navy, although it falls under the Navy's umbrella. It still has a separate command.
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 661324)
LOL



All right, Eagleboy, brief history.
The USAF came out of the Army Air Corps, you're correct.

The Marines, however, are still considered, at the very top, part of the US Navy. Ask any Navy Corpsman, or marine stationed on security detail at a Naval base. Just don't ask them to share a meal together. ;)

Good grief, man, don't you watch NCIS? (I know J.A.G. is before your time).

The Coast Guard is not considered military; they're currently under DHS. Don't let their .mil address or rank structure fool you. They can be militarized if necessary, however.

So, truthfully, we currently have three branches, not five. Just don't tell a marine he's a sailor.

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 661325)
Just asking from my limited understanding, isn't the Coast Guard considered military (either independent or absorbed into the Navy) while in a warzone?


Welpe Fri Feb 12, 2010 05:59pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 661329)
The Coast Guard only operates within US Waters

You may want to ask the Coast Guard what they were doing in Iraq then.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/coastguard/a/uscgwar.htm

Snaqs, gotcha, thanks.

just another ref Fri Feb 12, 2010 06:00pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 661324)
LOL



All right, Eagleboy, brief history.
The USAF came out of the Army Air Corps, you're correct.

The Marines, however, are still considered, at the very top, part of the US Navy. Ask any Navy Corpsman, or marine stationed on security detail at a Naval base. Just don't ask them to share a meal together. ;)

Good grief, man, don't you watch NCIS? (I know J.A.G. is before your time).

The Coast Guard is not considered military; they're currently under DHS. Don't let their .mil address or rank structure fool you. They can be militarized if necessary, however.

So, truthfully, we currently have three branches, not five. Just don't tell a marine he's a sailor.


But all the branches drive ambulances and talk about farming on their cell phones.

chseagle Fri Feb 12, 2010 06:00pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 661327)
I think you're on the wrong discussion board. :eek:

Mark, what I mean is that normally I'm in the secondary gym doing the JV & C-Squad game as scorebaord/timer. My wife does either scoreboard/timer or shot clock for JV, then does shot clock for Grils' Varsity in the main gym. However normally, she takes a break for Boys' Varsity & I do the shot clock for Boys' Varsity.

However since I was unable to access the secondary gym scorers' table due to it's location, my wife was doing scoreboard/timer there.

Adam Fri Feb 12, 2010 06:01pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 661329)
Actually before 9/11 the Coast Guard was a joint operation between the Department of Transportation & the Navy.

After 9/11, it's a joint operation between the Navy & Homeland Security.

My father has a Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal from when he was in the Navy when working on Drug Ops with the Coast Guard.

True USMC still has ties to the Navy, security details at bases & onbaord ships. However they are considered a separate entity now.

What about Judge Advocate General?? It's not before my time. How can the show J.A.G. be before my time when I'm turning 29 in April?

The Coast Guard only operates within US Waters, however it is considered a separate entity from the Navy, although it falls under the Navy's umbrella. It still has a separate command.

I should clarify, I'm defining military as under the direction of the Department of Defense. It only goes under the DOD (Dept of the Navy) when congress or the president so directs.

Could you tell me when the Marine Corps became it's own entity separate from the Department of the Navy? Has the Naval Academy stopped providing Marine officers?

Adam Fri Feb 12, 2010 06:02pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 661330)
You may want to ask the Coast Guard what they were doing in Iraq then.

I missed that little tidbit, they have jurisdiction in both US and international waters.

Welpe Fri Feb 12, 2010 06:03pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 661334)
I missed that little tidbit, they have jurisdiction in both US and international waters.


Understood. I was responding to FlyLikeanEagle's assertation that they only operated in US waters.

Adam Fri Feb 12, 2010 06:03pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 661336)
Understood. I was responding to FlyLikeanEagle's assertation that they only operated in US waters.

Yeah, so was I; I neglected to quote him rather than just your response.

Welpe Fri Feb 12, 2010 06:05pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 661338)
Yeah, so was I; I neglected to quote him rather than just your response.

Got it. I know see that you were referring to the original quotation of which I was referring to and not solely to my sentence, asserting that the Coast Guard was in Iraq.

chseagle Fri Feb 12, 2010 06:14pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 661330)
You may want to ask the Coast Guard what they were doing in Iraq then.

Coast Guard is Active Player in Iraq War

Snaqs, gotcha, thanks.

Joint Operations, just like really what is the Coast Guard doing down in Colombia?

Running joint operations with the Navy.

The US Waters is by themselves or in joint operations.

The Coast Guard has the smaller vessels designed to be closer into shore.

Being that deployed to Iraq, possibly assisting with deterring gun-runners or other shallow water operations.


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