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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:10pm
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Obstruction play

I don't want to fill the posts with all these random plays by some fella that is still learning the game, but a friend asked me to post this one. So if you can tolerate one more play I enjoy your insight.

This is a typically play that I see often. The Defender (I feel) established LGP, however his knees may be slightly outside the "normal" stance or the shoulder width stance. The offensive player does what he can to avoid contact yet there is still contact. Is this one I should've passed on?

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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:14pm
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The contact clearly effected the shot. Block all the way.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:20pm
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Tough angle from what I can tell. HTBT to get a better view but I'm leaning more to a play on.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:24pm
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Blocking foul and two shots for me
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:25pm
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Blocking foul and two shots for me
I'm not questioning the two shots, I just thought I'd add a question of whether the basket should have counted if it went in.

IOW, is this a play where you'd wave off a basket and award two free throws?
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:30pm
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I watched it again and see your point now. After he heard the whistle, he throws it up hoping for two shots. Good call
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:31pm
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I'm not questioning the two shots, I just thought I'd add a question of whether the basket should have counted if it went in.

IOW, is this a play where you'd wave off a basket and award two free throws?
Good question Snaq.....I'm not sure. I awarded 2 shots, but didn't think about it going in. Yes I think I would have. Other opinions may show I'd be wrong
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:18pm
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If the defender stuck his knees beyond the normal stance, he's responsible for the contact. If the contact disrupts the shooter (in this case), it's a foul.

This camera angle doesn't give much of an answer about either question, though, due to the players in the way. I can't tell if his knee was out, so I'll take your word on it.

Personally, I don't like knees and elbows going out, especially on a dribble drive like this, so I'd be inclined to have a foul to stop the behavior. It looks like his shot was sufficiently affected to justify it.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:19pm
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Question, would you have counted the basket?
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 05:38pm
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Really hard to tell from the video if his knees were truly "out." If it was and that's where contact was, block. If not, I've probably got a "play on."
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