Pregames

[Ignats75]

Why would the table crew need to have a pregame? THEY FREAKIN SIT NEXT TO EACH OTHER!!!!! Sheesh!

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Why would the table crew need to have a pregame? THEY FREAKIN SIT NEXT TO EACH OTHER!!!!! Sheesh!

This way everyone's on the same link/page. Also, this way everyone knwos what's expected of them, especially if they have not much of a clue about what they're doing or what's expected of their attitude/behavior.

[Juulie Downs]

My pre-game with the table (which I always do if I'm the R, and also if my partner is the R and doesn't do it) includes everyone, and thus would serve as a "group" pre-game for them. Although I like to think having a good table pre-game helps prevent problems, it's no guarantee. (Tuesday afternoon's game comes to mind!). But generally it lets the table know that they need to step up and try to act professional. Depending on how they act during the pre-game, I know how much effort I have to put into them for the rest of the game.

[deecee]

This isnt so comlicated chesgale that you should overthink it.

I ask the person doing the shot clock 1 question "What do you do if we have a jump ball?" if they answer that correctly they are good.

I ask the person doing the score and clock 1 question "On all official stoppages of play (ie. TO's DQ) when do you give us the first horn?"

I ask the person doing the book 1 question "How do you penalize a T?"

Of course I get their names too but thats it. That will tell me all I need to know about the tables ability for the game. I also make it clear that as a crew we need eye contact when reporting and if there are any issues to hit the horn immediatley. Oh I also ask that they refrain from hitting the horn for subs unless we miss it (I like as a crew for us to notice the subs and hit our whistle to get them in). I think it helps to show that we are on top of things.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by deecee

This isnt so complicated chseagle that you should overthink it.

I ask the person doing the shot clock 1 question "What do you do if we have a jump ball?" if they answer that correctly they are good.

I ask the person doing the score and clock 1 question "On all official stoppages of play (ie. TO's DQ) when do you give us the first horn?"

I ask the person doing the book 1 question "How do you penalize a T?"

Of course I get their names too but thats it. That will tell me all I need to know about the tables ability for the game. I also make it clear that as a crew we need eye contact when reporting and if there are any issues to hit the horn immediatley. Oh I also ask that they refrain from hitting the horn for subs unless we miss it (I like as a crew for us to notice the subs and hit our whistle to get them in). I think it helps to show that we are on top of things.

On jump balls, if the team on offense keeps the ball, no reset. If the team on defense gets the ball, reset.

On full TOs & Intermissions: 45 seconds into. On 30-sec. TOs: 15 seconds into. On DQd, 5 seconds into.

If against an active player or players on bench: Mark 1 personal as well as 1 T & 1 team foul. If against a DQd player on bench: 1 against team foul & an indirect against the coach. If player dunks or grasps basket in warm-ups, 1 personal, 1 T, 1 team foul, & indirect against the coach. Sub coming in without beckoning &/or reporting: 1 personal, 1 T, & 1 team foul. Administrative: 1 team foul. Asst. Coach: indirect against HC & 1 team foul. HC: 1 T Direct & 1 team foul.

Concerning the horn & subs, I don't always buzz when I notice an official call subs in.

What I am meaning by having a pregame for table crew is just the table crew by themselves. A time to discuss what is & is not allowed concerning behavior while at table (remaining neutral, no cell phones or friends, etc.)

Another thing concerning table crew, on "Instructions to & duties of the scorer for basketball games", it says:

"DURING INTERMISSIONS:
1. Either the official scorer or a delegated assistant must be at the
scorer’s table with the official scorebook at all times."

How often is the scorebook left on the table with no one there?

[constable]

Originally Posted by chseagle

On jump balls, if the team on offense keeps the ball, no reset. If the team on defense gets the ball, reset.

On full TOs & Intermissions: 45 seconds into. On 30-sec. TOs: 15 seconds into. On DQd, 5 seconds into.

If against an active player or players on bench: Mark 1 personal as well as 1 T & 1 team foul. If against a DQd player on bench: 1 against team foul & an indirect against the coach. If player dunks or grasps basket in warm-ups, 1 personal, 1 T, 1 team foul, & indirect against the coach. Sub coming in without beckoning &/or reporting: 1 personal, 1 T, & 1 team foul. Administrative: 1 team foul. Asst. Coach: indirect against HC & 1 team foul. HC: 1 T Direct & 1 team foul.

Concerning the horn & subs, I don't always buzz when I notice an official call subs in.

What I am meaning by having a pregame for table crew is just the table crew by themselves. A time to discuss what is & is not allowed concerning behavior while at table (remaining neutral, no cell phones or friends, etc.)

Another thing concerning table crew, on "Instructions to & duties of the scorer for basketball games", it says:

"DURING INTERMISSIONS:
1. Either the official scorer or a delegated assistant must be at the
scorer’s table with the official scorebook at all times."

How often is the scorebook left on the table with no one there?

You're my hero. You figured out the art of crtrl+c and ctrl+v.

To answer your question- no the table crew isn't involved in my pregame with my partner. There's no need.

If I'm the R, I remind them about the running score and eye contact for the timer,stopping on a whistle and starting on a hand chop for the timer and my 24 second operators get more details.