Welmer out...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

1) No, and if I ever get the urge to sit down and break down any NCAA official on tape(other than somebody I may know, like and think will appreciate it if I do give him some constructive feedback), I'm going to take something to make the urge go away. Why would I want to waste my time looking for reasons to say to the world that so-and-so is a crappy official? I'll leave that up to you, Tom. I always thought that evaluation by tape was supposed to be a positive process, not an excuse for someone to put down a fellow official. Somehow, I get the idea that your breaking Welmer down on tape might be done a little bit too subjectively.

Well to be honest, the NCAA uses tape to show many bad examples of officiating and also uses it to eliminate people out of the tournament. There is a reason many big name officials only worked one round or none at all in the NCAA Tournament last year.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

3) And I personally completely disagree with those statements. Nobody outside the NBA has a clue whatinthehell "right" is supposed to be. Hell, I've been officiating for 50 years and I couldn't tell anybody if asked what a foul in the NBA is. And yes, I think they'll let the stars get away with traveling, etc. also in the name of the holy "entertainment. My opinion is that the NBA in it's current state is completely unwatchable. It's the WWE with a basketball. And note that 25 years ago, I was a complete NBA junky. It's just doesn't resemble basketball very much anymore in my opinion.

Hey, I agree that it certainly is your right to crap on Welmer every chance that you get. Keep on keeping on.

I think your position on the NBA is no different than what Tommy's opinion is on Welmer. You have an opinion and I think your position on the NBA is really not accurate. For one the NBA is not nearly as physical as college. I think the reason is they have fewer officials to monitor and they can get a handful of guys on the same page or they will find someone else to do it. I also used to be a fan of the NBA but I am not, but it has nothing to do with the officiating. It has everything to do with the style of play for me. But to say that it is so physical is just not true in my opinion. Actually they call a lot of slight contact fouls that you do not see even called at the college level by the big timers. And some of the worst traveling calls or non-traveling calls I see are at the college level.

Again this is my take on your comments, but that is your right to feel that way. I just do not think what you say is totally true. I think a lot of people buy into the media hype of the NBA and that is fine. I just think that perception is not true.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually they call a lot of slight contact fouls that you do not see even called at the college level by the big timers.

Again this is my take on your comments, but that is your right to feel that way. I just do not think what you say is totally true.

And I respect your right to have your take also. Some of it I personally agree with and some of it I don't.

With regards to the red-highlighted statement above, I basically agree with that also. But in my opinion NBA officials do not call this type of play consistently. I see it called...and then I see it no-called.....and I see one official calling it and another official letting rape go. It's the inconsistency in calling contact in the NBA that I personally just can't figure out. And I ain't the only one. I think that D1 officials are more consistent within their conferences in calling contact. That said, there is a disparity from conference to conference also, and it's been that way forever.

Jmo also, Jeff.