Welmer out...

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

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I just kinda find it funny that you'll take any opportunity that you can find to crap on some officials but you absolutely worship other guys and would never admit that they might be....well... human also.

When have you ever heard me say anything about Hightower or Valentine that indicates I worship them? What you read was me saying they have a lot of their antics after they blow the whistle while Hall and Thornley jump around during play.

You know who I think is good in D1? Jamie Luckie, Hal Lusk, Pat Adams and Les Jones. Also, I think Scott Foster is one of the best, if not the best, NBA official and I would hardly call him a robot.

You didn't answer my question. Have you broke down Welmer's game on tape? I wonder if anyone on the forum has. I don't have anything against his habits on the court, how he gets along with player/coaches or any of that. What I'm talking about is play calling. I'm not saying he is horrible, like some perceived "Big Dogs", but he isn't an elite play caller or even close.

Maybe we are looking at different aspects of officiating and that is why we disagree. You are also thinking I really have something against Welmer. I would take him over some officials, #cough - David Hall - cough#, any day. I actually think what he has achieved in the game is rather fascinating. To do 127 (the most I've heard of him doing) games in a season is unthinkable.

I hope you understand what my opinion is and don't think I have something personal against Welmer. I just don't think he is as good as others do.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

To me, it will be a sad day when the D1 officials become the nameless, faceless robots that 90% of the NBA officials are. And I absolutely put Hightower and Valentine in the same class as Welmer. And yet, they've been in the Final Four countless times while Welmer has been shut out. Gee, I wonder why that is?

The guys in the NBA aren't nameless or faceless to me and many other officials. Isn't the overriding theme to get plays right? That being the case, the NBA does a better job at doing that than the NCAA or high school. Mr. Rush is helping the NCAA get there, but it will take some time.

Whenever you go to a camp, the clinicians frequently talk about how they don't know if they could make it with the competition the way it is now. Officials are trained at a level higher than it used to be and the training is aimed at getting plays right NOT tugging on pants or squating when you blow the whistle.