How many "T's" this year?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm pretty sure Nevada would rescind his T on the fan if it turned the fan was on the court due to a heart attack.

But not if the fan was on the court to attend to his/her child who was having a heart attack.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

But not if the fan was on the court to attend to his/her child who was having a heart attack.

Good point, they don't need to be there. They'll just get in the way.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm pretty sure Nevada would rescind his T on the fan if it turned the fan was on the court due to a heart attack.

Doubtful.

[showbo]

I can answer this question after today.

One.


Oscar

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by zm1283

2 on players, both unsportsmanlike (1 JH in the fall, 1 JV, both boys)

1 in a BV game last week for reaching across the sideline and slapping the ball on a throw-in.

The only one involving a coach that I've had was last night in a 3-person BV game and one partner whacked the Home's HC in the 3rd quarter. I should have stuck a JH coach in a game in the fall but didn't pull the trigger.

Scratch this. Add a T to a HC tonight. V team is down by 5 with about 30 seconds left and I'm L. V player flips up a shot and I get blocked out so I can't see if the H player contacts the ball or her arm. (Partner later told me he thought it was the ball that got hit) We both pass on it. As we go the other way, I'm new T and the V coach starts screaming "You have to call that.....that is horrible!". I'm at the division line and turn around and stick him. His response..."Thank you".

I also had a parent in the front row behind the endline who was from the V team and was telling me during a FT that "I should T myself" and that "We've screwed these girls over" tonight or something to that effect. Oh joy.

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I also had a parent in the front row behind the endline who was from the V team and was telling me during a FT that "I should T myself" and that "We've screwed these girls over" tonight or something to that effect. Oh joy.

That parent would be bye-bye in my game.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

That parent would be bye-bye in my game.

I think it's funnier if you ignore them as long as they're not vulgar or physically threatening anyone. Didn't want to give him attention or the satisfaction that I was listening to him.

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I think it's funnier if you ignore them as long as they're not vulgar or physically threatening anyone. Didn't want to give him attention or the satisfaction that I was listening to him.

in a vaccuum I would agree with you. But let me ask a real dangerous question. What is the real purpose of interscholastic sports? Is it just to build strong bodies twelve ways? Or is it to also teach life lessons about self discipline, teamwork, sacrifice and sportsmanship? Because if it's latter, then we need to enforce behavior that is unsportsman like. Enciting a crowd by saying we are screwing the kids certainly falls under that category

[BillyMac]

Boys varsity last night. Second period. My partner warns the home team for crossing the boundary line on a throwin. Home team relentlessly presses the entire game. Third period. Home team crosses the boundary line on a throwin again. Team technical foul.

[Back In The Saddle]

It seems like I average a half dozen or so every season. I'm about on track this year.

2 HC T's, both of which were very enthusiastically requested, yet both seemed surprised when their screams of "Call a foul!" actually worked.
1 HC T, AAU coach is stomping and yelling about a PC foul call
1 P T, Mens rec (surprisingly there has been just the one) for a player threatening to kick another player's ***
Coupla miscellaneous player T's in HS games for unsporting behavior
Oh, almost forgot, 1 T for a kid swinging on the rim after a dunk. Not even a question about it, the kid was swinging like it was the jungle gym on the elementary school playground. But the T spooked him enough that after his next dunk, when he really did need to hang onto the rim to steady himself a bit, he let go too soon and fell on his backside.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm pretty sure Nevada would rescind his T on the fan if it turned the fan was on the court due to a heart attack.

On the contrary, the floor is reserved exclusively for the players and the officials. The fan has NO BUSINESS having a heart attack on the floor. He should have his heart attack in the stands, where the ticket he purchased has granted him access to have his heart attack.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

3 so far - all on players with bad attitudes and a mouth to match.

Came close with a couple of coaches, but so far they've heeded the warnings and not crossed the line.

Like Rich said, no big deal, when they happen, they happen. There's nothing special about a T - it's just another kind of foul.......

Nothing special about a "T"?


When I call a "T" I have to write a report and send it into the state ( West Virginia ) If a coach gets 2 he has to give up 25% of his season's pay. He also sits for 2 games after the game he is ejected from.


A "T" is not just another foul. JMO. You get 5 fouls, but if the first 2 are "T's" you don't get the last 3. If you get 2 "T's" in one game you get to sit for 2 more games, player or coach.

"T's" are special. I have several referees in my association that have never given one. They consider themselves to be patient and understanding.....

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Nothing special about a "T"?


When I call a "T" I have to write a report and send it into the state ( West Virginia ) If a coach gets 2 he has to give up 25% of his season's pay. He also sits for 2 games after the game he is ejected from.


A "T" is not just another foul. JMO. You get 5 fouls, but if the first 2 are "T's" you don't get the last 3. If you get 2 "T's" in one game you get to sit for 2 more games, player or coach.

"T's" are special. I have several referees in my association that have never given one. They consider themselves to be patient and understanding.....

External consequences are irrelevant to us. From the official's point of view calling a T is just like calling any other foul. If it's there, you call it, but we don't go looking for them.

And it's absurd for an official to set a goal regarding how few T's he will call during a season. Now goals to be a better communicator with coaches, to better sense when trouble is brewing and head it off, those are worthy goals.

[constable]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Nothing special about a "T"?


When I call a "T" I have to write a report and send it into the state ( West Virginia ) If a coach gets 2 he has to give up 25% of his season's pay. He also sits for 2 games after the game he is ejected from.


A "T" is not just another foul. JMO. You get 5 fouls, but if the first 2 are "T's" you don't get the last 3. If you get 2 "T's" in one game you get to sit for 2 more games, player or coach.

"T's" are special. I have several referees in my association that have never given one. They consider themselves to be patient and understanding.....

Technicals in my opinion are a part of the game. Do you have to write up a hold, block, or push?

Our association is specific that for routine technical fouls there doesn't need to be a report- only if something is out of the ordinary.

Some one in another thread made reference to an NBA official saying offensive fouls being just like a technical fouls and need to be called more often.

If you ask me, more emphasis should be placed on intentional fouls than technical fouls.

[BillyMac]

I think that this post jinxed me. I have a very long fuse, and don't give a lot of technical fouls, but this is a record year for me.

Boys varsity game yesterday. No problems throughout game. Ball on the floor. A few players dive for the loose ball. A few hands hold onto the ball. My partner and I come both blow our whistles long and hard for a held ball and we both step toward the "scrum". Players get up and A1, who was in on the held ball, takes two hands, puts them on B1's chest, he was also in on the held ball, and pushes him back a few feet. No retaliation from B1. Technical foul. Team A coach sits A1 down for several minutes to cool off. On my way to the table I considered a flagrant foul for almost starting a fight, but since no words were exchanged, and since there was no retaliation, and since A1 didn't give me a hard time after the foul was charged, I decided to just go with a regular technical foul.