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Adam Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:12am
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Originally Posted by nevadaref (Post 653207)
jdw beat you by four minutes. :p
:p

Amesman Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:36am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 653168)
From your description A1 was the last to touch the ball before it hit the backcourt, the division line, and then the first to touch it after it bounced there. The coach was right. You failed to call a violation.
Thanks. As I (belatedly) thought might be the case.

Granted, this is relatively small potatoes, but does anyone ever see a time to acknowledge this with the coach next game we cross paths, especially since my reasoning to her was wrong? I will have at least one more of her games soon, and likely will have more in seasons to come. We didn't have a knock-down, drag-out over this by any means, so I wouldn't want to make a big deal out of it. And I wouldn't even consider this for any other points of contention.

I guess it comes down to this: When would you show your humility on something like this, and how? Tough for newer guys to gauge as they're trying to improve, and hopefully earn a some respect on the way.

Upward ref Wed Jan 20, 2010 01:51pm
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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 653196)
It doesn't matter who poked the ball away. All that matters is who was the last player to touch the ball in the front court. If A touches the ball, even after it's been poked away by B, before the ball goes into the backcourt, then A was the last to touch it in the frontcourt.

If B deflects the ball of A's leg, and A runs into the backcourt and retrieves the ball, it is a violation. If the ball is batted away by B without touching A, then A may legally retrieve the ball.
Ok, but my reasoning was B is the last to touch the ball as he "poked" ,slapped or otherwise hit the ball away from A's control.

Upward ref Wed Jan 20, 2010 01:56pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 653202)
Why does this matter? Here's a situation for you.

A1 dribbling in front court, guarded by B1. B1 bats the dribble and it hits A1's leg before going into the BC, where A2 recovers it.

You make the call.
A1 is last and first to touch, violation. But I'm referring to if it doesn't hit A1 's leg before going into the BC .Isn't that considered last touched by B ? Batted , poked, etc...

jdw3018 Wed Jan 20, 2010 01:57pm
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Originally Posted by Upward ref (Post 653746)
Ok, but my reasoning was B is the last to touch the ball as he "poked" ,slapped or otherwise hit the ball away from A's control.
Except that, the way I read the situation, A touched the ball again before it gained backcourt status. B poked it away, then A regained control by dribbling the ball, but she dribbled it on the division line.

jdw3018 Wed Jan 20, 2010 01:58pm
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Originally Posted by Upward ref (Post 653752)
A1 is last and first to touch, violation. But I'm referring to if it doesn't hit A1 's leg before going into the BC .Isn't that considered last touched by B ? Batted , poked, etc...
Sure, if B pokes it away and it gains backcourt status before A touches it, then all is legal. That's not what we're talking about.

Upward ref Wed Jan 20, 2010 02:00pm
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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 653754)
Sure, if B pokes it away and it gains backcourt status before A touches it, then all is legal. That's not what we're talking about.
Ok , i gotcha now . thanks:)


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