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Old Fri Jan 15, 2010, 01:54pm
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Okay, in reading, apparently it's an optional mechanic. In practice, I've gotten away from it. This situation just reminded me that I'd gone away from this lately. Here's the kicker, I've been in the OP situation before, but without an evaluator. I've learned this lesson the hard way.

At the very least, turn and tell your partners immediately; otherwise you'll have a sub coming in during a live ball and some officials will tell you that you should call the T.

You can bet I'll make sure this gets brought up in my pre-game tonight.

I'm not sure if I like it or not. Informing the coach yourself gives you the opportunity to give a QUICK explanation which they are often looking for on a 5th foul and then inform the timer to start the clock - or better yet inform the timer to start the clock and THEN give a quick explanation. If it becomes heated you can always get out of there after, but at least the coach is on the clock. If you go get one of your partners to tell the coach, you are really giving them another 10 seconds or so to sub which effectively becomes a 30 second time out. Now to your point and that in the OP, you DEFINITELY want to pre-game this and make sure your partners know what is going on. If your partners are worth a damn they should not administer when you have your back to the floor EVER!
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Old Fri Jan 15, 2010, 01:58pm
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When the reporting official goes table side on this, he usually just turns around. The L could easily just glance and see him in position, looking towards the bench and think everything is Kosher. Mistakes happen.

I think the mechanic was put in place to difuse things, but to me the real benefit is ensuring the game isn't continued while your back is turned.
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Old Fri Jan 15, 2010, 02:02pm
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A. More communication between the partners. More eye contact, more talk, more signals.

B. Even if no communication, L should have seen you at the table and held the FT admin. All three whistles need to be more aware of the whole floor.

C. Evaluator needs to not yell, especially about something that un-impact-ful. Yea, it looks bad, but it was small, had no effect on the game, and you all still learned a lesson. Definitely not worth a temper tantrum.
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Old Fri Jan 15, 2010, 04:12pm
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I'm not sure if I like it or not. Informing the coach yourself gives you the opportunity to give a QUICK explanation which they are often looking for on a 5th foul and then inform the timer to start the clock - or better yet inform the timer to start the clock and THEN give a quick explanation. If it becomes heated you can always get out of there after, but at least the coach is on the clock. If you go get one of your partners to tell the coach, you are really giving them another 10 seconds or so to sub which effectively becomes a 30 second time out. Now to your point and that in the OP, you DEFINITELY want to pre-game this and make sure your partners know what is going on. If your partners are worth a damn they should not administer when you have your back to the floor EVER!
You are not there to give a quick explanation. You are there to inform the coach. Plus, why does it seem when a player gets disqualified the official walks all the way up to the table?

I call a foul. I report the foul from the reporting area. Table notifies me that the player has 5 fouls....first thing I do is turn to my partner(s) and communicate "5 fouls" (verbally and/or non-verbally)--it takes 2 seconds to do that.....THEN I approach the coach and notify him of the disqualification......

And on those rare occasions where I don't want to do the notification I will walk towards the slot official and say "let the coach know ## has 5 fouls".
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