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Old Fri Jan 15, 2010, 03:22pm
Ref_in_Alberta Ref_in_Alberta is offline
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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan View Post
3 man, Girls Varsity.

Good game to the end of the first half. 31-29. I am the R. We had a very good ( my opinion ) pre game. Evaluator in the stands, we know it.

Visitors take a 20 point lead in the 4th quarter. With 35 seconds left in the game, from the lead, I call a foul on home team #30. Table tells me it is her 5th foul. I go to the coach and tell him, he turns to a player for replacement. I tell the table to start the 20 second clock, I turn to tell #30 that it's her 5th foul, but the sub comes to the table and I beckon the sub into the game. I turn and tell my partner 2 shots.

We shot one shot and the players jump in for the rebound. I blow and say " that was 2 shots" Partner comes to me and says " we already shot this first one, that was the second".....We get it right and go to P.O.I and give it back to home who rebounded the ball.

How bad did we look? Over all, we had a very good game for 31 minutes plus.
Was your partner's frosty malt beverage getting warm on something for them to be a rush?

Can't speak to the NF mechanics, under FIBA 3-person once the calling official is done reporting the foul, they are to take the TRAIL position opposite the table which then leaves the new CENTER official table side to administer subs / time out requests and 5th foul situations. By using the proper procedure it eliminates the chance that something like this could occur.

If I was the calling official in your snitch...

- I'd report the foul
- if the table informs me that it's the player 5th, I'll tell my closest partner and take my new position as Trail opposite.
- Partner informs player & coach
- Partner adminsiters the sub and any time out requests

You'd made a comment that following the procedure outlined in your mechanics manual "slows the game down." Didn't you just slow the game down by blowing your whistle to kill the play just to give the ball back to the same team?

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan View Post
After I reported the foul, table told me " That's 5" I went to the coach, away from where we were shooting, So I am about 55 feet from the basket that we are shooting at. it all happened in about 15 seconds from the time I reported the foul, to tell the coach, to getting the sub into the game.
Once again, I do not claim to know the correct NF procedure for informing the coach regarding a player's 5th foul. Here we do not "go to" the coach. We just tell them from a position on the floor that the player has been disqualified. The delay in resuming the game is just getting the player replaced.

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan View Post
No, we got it pretty good after the game. You wouldn't have wanted to be in the room. you really wouldn't have wanted to be outside of the door.....
I'm the evaluation chair for our local association and if I ever heard one of my evaluators go off on a crew like I can only imagine from your post. They would not be working for me anymore.

If I was observing your game, I'd only ask each of your crew 3 questions...

Terrapins Fan - Why did you not use the proper procedure to inform the coach and player that they've fouled out?

New Lead - Why are you rushing through the FT when it was pretty obvious that Terrapins Fan was not ready?

New Center (assuming you're using the FIBA mechanics) - Why did you not tell new lead to hold up and wait for Terrapins Fan to be ready?

You could always look at it this way. "If that's the only thing we screwed up to get grilled on in the whole game, we must of done a good job."

My 2 cents.
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