When does a 52-51 victory go into the books as a 59-57 overtime loss?

[tjones1]

Brings up a point...

When I'm R, at halftime, and towards the end of the game when I get a chance to get over there I ask the official scorer: "Is everything ok with the book?"

Is that all I can do? Could I ask a better question? What do you ask?

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Could I ask a better question? What do you ask?

Do you all three (h book, v book, scoreboard person) agree about fouls, points, possession arrow?"

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Do you all three (h book, v book, scoreboard person) agree about fouls, points, possession arrow?"

This is what I ask in games that are anywhere near close.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Do you all three (h book, v book, scoreboard person) agree about fouls, points, possession arrow?"

Juulie,

Not always are personal fouls tracked by the scoreboard, sometimes it's just team fouls that are tracked.

Should it be mandatory that both personal & team fouls be tracked by both scorebook & scoreboard? Or just stay with team fouls tracked?

Not always do the scorebooks keep track of the possession arrow.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Juulie,

Not always are personal fouls tracked by the scoreboard, sometimes it's just team fouls that are tracked.

Should it be mandatory that both personal & team fouls be tracked by both scorebook & scoreboard? Or just stay with team fouls tracked?

Not always do the scorebooks keep track of the possession arrow.

It's not mandatory that fouls are kept on the scoreboard. As an official, I prefer it, though.

The scorer should track the A/P. It's one of their duties and is in fact not a duty of the timer. The scorer is responsible for the arrow at the table.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

It's not mandatory that fouls are kept on the scoreboard. As an official, I prefer it, though.

The scorer should track the A/P. It's one of their duties and is in fact not a duty of the timer. The scorer is responsible for the arrow at the table.

I know that the timer's not responsible for the A/P, as it's the scorer's responsibility, however the games where I'm timer, the scorer never keeps track of the A/P Even when I mention to them they need to keep track of it.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I know that the timer's not responsible for the A/P, as it's the scorer's responsibility, however the games where I'm timer, the scorer never keeps track of the A/P Even when I mention to them they need to keep track of it.

Tell them that whatever AP device you use could malfunction as early as tonight.

[Adam]

Make a bet with them on how many times it'll be used during the game.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Tell them that whatever AP device you use could malfunction as early as tonight.

Well, if Rookiedude does the JV or C-Squad game in the secondary gym, will see what is used as an AP device...A handmade wooden arrow that spins around. So there are times the arrow gets flipped around due to the table getting bumped.

In the main gym, the AP is a light box on the scorers' table.

I, however, also keep track of the AP using the scoreboard when I'm scoreboard/timer, in case the AP device does malfunction.

[StripesOhio]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Brings up a point...

When I'm R, at halftime, and towards the end of the game when I get a chance to get over there I ask the official scorer: "Is everything ok with the book?"

Is that all I can do? Could I ask a better question? What do you ask?

EVERY time I'm at the table in the fourth quarter (and also at halftime) I say,

"Running score and fouls, ok?"

I've never had a problem.

[knockitoff]

Here's another one from this past Friday here in Metro Detroit...

Romeo wins basketball game; Dakota to protest - The Macomb Daily Sports > Preps: Breaking news coverage for Macomb County, Michigan

Haven't heard how far the losing team actually went with their "protest".

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by knockitoff

Here's another one from this past Friday here in Metro Detroit...

Romeo wins basketball game; Dakota to protest - The Macomb Daily Sports > Preps: Breaking news coverage for Macomb County, Michigan

Haven't heard how far the losing team actually went with their "protest".

I wonder if someone removed a jersey during the celebration.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I wonder if someone removed a jersey during the celebration.

Naw, that couldn't be the call. The game was played in Michigan, not Nevada.

[Jurassic Referee]

Late technical foul burns Dakota | detnews.com | The Detroit News

The MHSSAA said "excessive celebration and taunting" and "..some pushing and shoving did occur..".

You reap what you sow.

'Nuff said......good job by the officials.

[johnnyrao]

What I like about the article Bob posted is that usually these articles rip the officials for being responsible. An unfortunate situation, but I like the fact that the author doesn't fix blame on anyone in particular. I'm sure the coach who actually had 52 at the end of regulation is re-thinking who keeps the scorebook and maybe even the responsibilities of the asst. coaches at the end of close games. As far as the official book never changing, great point but I am not sure it matters. Isn't the rule that once the OT begins, it must be played regardless of what else comes?