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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 01:44pm
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T during chseagle's game

Ok...I looked on our association's arbiter website, and found out who the officials were for the game that chseagle was at the table.

(Thread: "Technical called during Free Throw Administration")
Technical called during free throw administration

chseagle said that s/he thought the V officials had called a DOG T on Team B because player B1 had entered a FT lane spot after the FT shooter A1 had been given the ball...or something to that effect.

Here is what actually happened...according to the R on the game.

Player A1 had just shot his 1st of 2 FTs...Team B had a sub at the table, and the R, which was at tableside, beckoned the Team B sub into the game.

The Lead official then bounced pass the ball to FT shooter A1. The R then heard the Team B Coach say, to the player that had just come out of the game and was at the bench... "No, I don't want you to come out of the game...I wanted so and so to come out of the game...get back in there!"

So, the kid...whom is now bench personnel...rushes back onto the court (without being beckoned) and tells the other player to get out.

The R sees this and calls a Technical.

Now...pretend you are the R...administer this situation...
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 01:54pm
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Technical on the sub for entering without being beckoned.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 01:55pm
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Ok...I looked on our association's arbiter website, and found out who the officials were for the game that chseagle was at the table.

(Thread: "Technical called during Free Throw Administration")
Technical called during free throw administration

chseagle said that s/he thought the V officials had called a DOG T on Team B because player B1 had entered a FT lane spot after the FT shooter A1 had been given the ball...or something to that effect.

Here is what actually happened...according to the R on the game.

Player A1 had just shot his 1st of 2 FTs...Team B had a sub at the table, and the R, which was at tableside, beckoned the Team B sub into the game.

The Lead official then bounced pass the ball to FT shooter A1. The R then heard the Team B Coach say, to the player that had just come out of the game and was at the bench... "No, I don't want you to come out of the game...I wanted so and so to come out of the game...get back in there!"

So, the kid...whom is now bench personnel...rushes back onto the court (without being beckoned) and tells the other player to get out.

The R sees this and calls a Technical.

Now...pretend you are the R...administer this situation...
RookieDude,

Thanks for the clarification on that. As I saw it, it looked as if the coach was asking for a switch on personnel for the lane.

I kept thinking to myself I was missing some detail but couldn't remember.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 01:59pm
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Ok...I looked on our association's arbiter website, and found out who the officials were for the game that chseagle was at the table.

(Thread: "Technical called during Free Throw Administration")
Technical called during free throw administration

chseagle said that s/he thought the V officials had called a DOG T on Team B because player B1 had entered a FT lane spot after the FT shooter A1 had been given the ball...or something to that effect.

Here is what actually happened...according to the R on the game.

Player A1 had just shot his 1st of 2 FTs...Team B had a sub at the table, and the R, which was at tableside, beckoned the Team B sub into the game.

The Lead official then bounced pass the ball to FT shooter A1. The R then heard the Team B Coach say, to the player that had just come out of the game and was at the bench... "No, I don't want you to come out of the game...I wanted so and so to come out of the game...get back in there!"

So, the kid...whom is now bench personnel...rushes back onto the court (without being beckoned) and tells the other player to get out.

The R sees this and calls a Technical.

Now...pretend you are the R...administer this situation...
Assuming that A1 hadn't completed his 2nd FT, I would clear the lane and let him complete his 2nd FT. Then we would go done to the other end to shoot 2 and then administer the Team B throwin at the division line opposite the table.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:03pm
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Assuming that A1 hadn't completed his 2nd FT, I would clear the lane and let him complete his 2nd FT. Then we would go done to the other end to shoot 2 and then administer the Team B throwin at the division line opposite the table.
Except that the T was on team B...
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:04pm
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Except that the T was on team B...
LOL. You're right. So we don't go to the other end to shoot the FT's for the T, but we still clear the lane for the 2nd FT and then shoot the T's with the ball at the division for a Team A throwin. I guess it wasn't so easy after all!
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:06pm
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The R sees this and calls a Technical.

Now...pretend you are the R...administer this situation...
Did the crew assess an indirect to the head coach?
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:14pm
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Did the crew assess an indirect to the head coach?
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:19pm
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Team B gets a T AND 2 shots and the ball?
I forgot that team B got the T. Rockyroad already brought my mistake to my attention. But thanks for bringing it up again! LOL!
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I forgot that team B got the T. Rockyroad already brought my mistake to my attention. But thanks for bringing it up again! LOL!
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:23pm
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LOL. You're right. So we don't go to the other end to shoot the FT's for the T, but we still clear the lane for the 2nd FT and then shoot the T's with the ball at the division for a Team A throwin. I guess it wasn't so easy after all!
Oh, it was easy...you just read it too fast!
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:24pm
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Oh, it was easy...you just read it too fast!
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:29pm
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The R sees this and calls a Technical.
Was he mystified that the table didn't pick up on this better?
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:29pm
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The crew called a bench technical for entering the court, not a substitute technical, correct?

If so, I agree.

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