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RookieDude Thu Jan 14, 2010 01:44pm

T during chseagle's game
 
Ok...I looked on our association's arbiter website, and found out who the officials were for the game that chseagle was at the table.

(Thread: "Technical called during Free Throw Administration")
http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...istration.html

chseagle said that s/he thought the V officials had called a DOG T on Team B because player B1 had entered a FT lane spot after the FT shooter A1 had been given the ball...or something to that effect.

Here is what actually happened...according to the R on the game.

Player A1 had just shot his 1st of 2 FTs...Team B had a sub at the table, and the R, which was at tableside, beckoned the Team B sub into the game.

The Lead official then bounced pass the ball to FT shooter A1. The R then heard the Team B Coach say, to the player that had just come out of the game and was at the bench... "No, I don't want you to come out of the game...I wanted so and so to come out of the game...get back in there!"

So, the kid...whom is now bench personnel...rushes back onto the court (without being beckoned) and tells the other player to get out.

The R sees this and calls a Technical.

Now...pretend you are the R...administer this situation...

just another ref Thu Jan 14, 2010 01:54pm

Technical on the sub for entering without being beckoned.

chseagle Thu Jan 14, 2010 01:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 651604)
Ok...I looked on our association's arbiter website, and found out who the officials were for the game that chseagle was at the table.

(Thread: "Technical called during Free Throw Administration")
http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...istration.html

chseagle said that s/he thought the V officials had called a DOG T on Team B because player B1 had entered a FT lane spot after the FT shooter A1 had been given the ball...or something to that effect.

Here is what actually happened...according to the R on the game.

Player A1 had just shot his 1st of 2 FTs...Team B had a sub at the table, and the R, which was at tableside, beckoned the Team B sub into the game.

The Lead official then bounced pass the ball to FT shooter A1. The R then heard the Team B Coach say, to the player that had just come out of the game and was at the bench... "No, I don't want you to come out of the game...I wanted so and so to come out of the game...get back in there!"

So, the kid...whom is now bench personnel...rushes back onto the court (without being beckoned) and tells the other player to get out.

The R sees this and calls a Technical.

Now...pretend you are the R...administer this situation...

RookieDude,

Thanks for the clarification on that. As I saw it, it looked as if the coach was asking for a switch on personnel for the lane.

I kept thinking to myself I was missing some detail but couldn't remember.

rwest Thu Jan 14, 2010 01:59pm

Easy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 651604)
Ok...I looked on our association's arbiter website, and found out who the officials were for the game that chseagle was at the table.

(Thread: "Technical called during Free Throw Administration")
http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...istration.html

chseagle said that s/he thought the V officials had called a DOG T on Team B because player B1 had entered a FT lane spot after the FT shooter A1 had been given the ball...or something to that effect.

Here is what actually happened...according to the R on the game.

Player A1 had just shot his 1st of 2 FTs...Team B had a sub at the table, and the R, which was at tableside, beckoned the Team B sub into the game.

The Lead official then bounced pass the ball to FT shooter A1. The R then heard the Team B Coach say, to the player that had just come out of the game and was at the bench... "No, I don't want you to come out of the game...I wanted so and so to come out of the game...get back in there!"

So, the kid...whom is now bench personnel...rushes back onto the court (without being beckoned) and tells the other player to get out.

The R sees this and calls a Technical.

Now...pretend you are the R...administer this situation...

Assuming that A1 hadn't completed his 2nd FT, I would clear the lane and let him complete his 2nd FT. Then we would go done to the other end to shoot 2 and then administer the Team B throwin at the division line opposite the table.

rockyroad Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 651615)
Assuming that A1 hadn't completed his 2nd FT, I would clear the lane and let him complete his 2nd FT. Then we would go done to the other end to shoot 2 and then administer the Team B throwin at the division line opposite the table.

Except that the T was on team B...

rwest Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:04pm

Oops! My Bad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 651619)
Except that the T was on team B...

LOL. You're right. So we don't go to the other end to shoot the FT's for the T, but we still clear the lane for the 2nd FT and then shoot the T's with the ball at the division for a Team A throwin. I guess it wasn't so easy after all! :eek:

Welpe Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 651604)

The R sees this and calls a Technical.

Now...pretend you are the R...administer this situation...

Did the crew assess an indirect to the head coach?

RookieDude Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 651622)
Did the crew assess an indirect to the head coach?

Yes

rwest Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:19pm

No your not! I was!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 651630)
Team B gets a T AND 2 shots and the ball?:confused:

I forgot that team B got the T. Rockyroad already brought my mistake to my attention. But thanks for bringing it up again! LOL! :)

26 Year Gap Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 651632)
I forgot that team B got the T. Rockyroad already brought my mistake to my attention. But thanks for bringing it up again! LOL! :)

Beating dead horses is an important aspect of this game.

rockyroad Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 651620)
LOL. You're right. So we don't go to the other end to shoot the FT's for the T, but we still clear the lane for the 2nd FT and then shoot the T's with the ball at the division for a Team A throwin. I guess it wasn't so easy after all! :eek:

Oh, it was easy...you just read it too fast!:p

rwest Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:24pm

Ok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 651635)
Beating dead horses is an important aspect of this game.

Consider it glue!

26 Year Gap Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 651636)
Oh, it was easy...you just read it too fast!:p

Evelyn Woodhead Speed Reading Course by Cheech & Chong

Amesman Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 651604)
The R sees this and calls a Technical.

Was he mystified that the table didn't pick up on this better?

tjones1 Thu Jan 14, 2010 02:29pm

The crew called a bench technical for entering the court, not a substitute technical, correct?

If so, I agree.


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