Block? Charge? No call?

[representing]

in my honest opinion, it looked like a block. Take a closer look, the player with the ball picked up the dribble and just at that moment you can see the defensive player takes a jump forward. He lost his previous guarding position and I don't think he was in his new guarding position long enough before contact. I would have called a block for sure, but I'd have had to be there for a better answer.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by representing

in my honest opinion, it looked like a block. Take a closer look, the player with the ball picked up the dribble and just at that moment you can see the defensive player takes a jump forward. He lost his previous guarding position and I don't think he was in his new guarding position long enough before contact. I would have called a block for sure, but I'd have had to be there for a better answer.

How long does he have to be in the new position?

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by representing

in my honest opinion, it looked like a block. Take a closer look, the player with the ball picked up the dribble and just at that moment you can see the defensive player takes a jump forward. He lost his previous guarding position and I don't think he was in his new guarding position long enough before contact. I would have called a block for sure, but I'd have had to be there for a better answer.

What would make it "long enough"? Remember no time/distance required when defending a player with the ball. Did he establish his position before the ball handler left the floor? Looks to me 100% yes.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by representing

in my honest opinion, it looked like a block. Take a closer look, the player with the ball picked up the dribble and just at that moment you can see the defensive player takes a jump forward. He lost his previous guarding position and I don't think he was in his new guarding position long enough before contact. I would have called a block for sure, but I'd have had to be there for a better answer.

I cannot see the video at work. But hilighted above is not proper. Finishing the dribble and being there long enough have nothing to do with the call.

Did B1 establish LGP? Did B1 get to the spot of the collision first? Did A1 go airborne? Did B1 move after A1 went airborne?

Those are things you should be looking at.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by representing

in my honest opinion, it looked like a block. Take a closer look, the player with the ball picked up the dribble and just at that moment you can see the defensive player takes a jump forward. He lost his previous guarding position and I don't think he was in his new guarding position long enough before contact. I would have called a block for sure, but I'd have had to be there for a better answer.

Can you please explain why picking up the dribble is relevant?

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by representing

in my honest opinion, it looked like a block. Take a closer look, the player with the ball picked up the dribble and just at that moment you can see the defensive player takes a jump forward. He lost his previous guarding position and I don't think he was in his new guarding position long enough before contact. I would have called a block for sure, but I'd have had to be there for a better answer.

player with the ball "time and distance are not a factor in establishing legal guarding position"

The first time I looked at this I had PC I watched it a couple more times with the same thought. Read this post looked again and I came away with......PC

[Clark Kent]

Thanks guys. I love to read your opinions and break down a simple play that could cause some problems.

For the record Trail was waiving off the shot....he pauses when he realizes L has a whistle too. Lead drops and T goes PC.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Thanks guys. I love to read your opinions and break down a simple play that could cause some problems.

For the record Trail was waiving off the shot....he pauses when he realizes L has a whistle too. Lead drops and T goes PC.

Mind sharing any of the post-game discussion? What were the points brought up, in review who should have had the call, etc?

[bbcof83]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Thanks guys. I love to read your opinions and break down a simple play that could cause some problems.

For the record Trail was waiving off the shot....he pauses when he realizes L has a whistle too. Lead drops and T goes PC.

Which one are you? L or T?