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Originally Posted by Upward ref (Post 651651)

so it doesn't matter if more ft's follow, it's still going to the ap arrow after that ? if so then why not clear the lane of everybody but A1? and if A1 misses the rim again, ball to B ?

Note that it says "unless another freethrow follows...."

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 651654)

While it's not exactly a POI situation, that's basically how I think of it. You have a simultaneous violation which ends the current free throw attempt. You then have to go to the "next" thing. If there's another free throw, that's next. If there's not another free throw, you obviously have to get the game started with a throw in. The only way to determine who is entitled to the throw in is to go to the arrow.

One of the differences from a true POI situation is that the simultaneous violations could occur while the shooting team is in control of the ball, but that doesn't matter.

I'm not fully understanding the whole POI thing yet ,hopefully another thread may help. but right now i want to know about the additional FT . After that are we still going with the AP arrow ? and if so ;why have 6 guys in marked lane spaces ?
And next; if the thrower A1 violates again( miss the rim, foot in the lane etc..) that violation negates the AP arrow and ball to B ?

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Originally Posted by Upward ref (Post 651686)

If there is another free throw, we ARE NOT going to the A/P arrow. We are just going to resume play with the next free throw.

We only go to the arrow if there is NOT another free throw.

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 651691)

If there is another free throw, we ARE NOT going to the A/P arrow. We are just going to resume play with the next free throw.

We only go to the arrow if there is NOT another free throw.

O K , I did note the "unless " but wasn't sure how to interpret it , the easiest way might have been best ! some of you guys were obviously trying to tell me, thanks

Ok, some examples...

B1, in a marked lane space, enters the lane prematurely. The administering official properly signals the violation and A1 attempts (a) the first free throw of a 1&1 (b) the 1st free throw of a 2 shot foul (c) the 2nd free throw of a 2 shot foul. However, in all situations, A1's attempt does not enter the basket or touch the ring.

Rulings:

Situation A: Cancel the attempt and resume play with the AP.

Situation B: Cancel the attempt and administer the 2nd free throw. Play will resume from here. I.e. if good, throw-in for Team B; on a miss Team A/B may get the rebound, etc.

Situation C: Cancel the attempt and resume play with the AP.

Does this help?

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 651698)

B1, in a marked lane space, enters the lane prematurely. The administering official properly signals the violation and A1 attempts (a) the first free throw of a 1&1 (b) the 1st free throw of a 2 shot foul (c) the 2nd free throw of a 2 shot foul the free throw. However, in all situations, A1's attempt does not enter the basket or touch the ring.

Rulings:

Situation A: Cancel the attempt and resume play with the AP.

Situation B: Cancel the attempt and administer the 2nd free throw. Play will resume from here. I.e. if good, throw-in for Team B; on a miss Team A/B may get the rebound, etc.

Situation C: Cancel the attempt and resume play with the AP
.

Does this help?

Yes, I finally got it ! Thanks. <><