Whats your steps when calling a foul?

[CDurham]

Do you call the foul, give the signal, then report?

Call the foul, give the signal and say the player number, then report?

Just call the foul and then report?

Or as I've seen actually Saturday, call the foul (half raised arm), walk around the 3 point line say the number and return to the proper spot (without stopping and giving # or signal to table).

Curious on everyones different steps when calling a foul!

Thanks

[chartrusepengui]

have one worse than that. We have a couple guys - varsity level - that when in lead position will signal foul - then tell their partner what they've called and the partner in trail position reports to the table. No switch. They will literally call an entire half without switching.

We've tried talking to them but - they've been doing it this way for years and "it works" for them.

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

have one worse than that. We have a couple guys - varsity level - that when in lead position will signal foul - then tell their partner what they've called and the partner in trail position reports to the table. No switch. They will literally call an entire half without switching.

We've tried talking to them but - they've been doing it this way for years and "it works" for them.

haha whats sad is thats at the Varsity level. If the NFHS wanted officials to relay the message to their partners it would be in the mechanics of a 3 man crew. BUT they clearly want us to switch and it makes us look alive and happy to be there.

[JRutledge]

I try to go as close to the procedure as possible. Usually when it is a shooting foul I have noticed I might not give the preliminary signal as much as I should, but I still give the signals for 2 shots.

Peace

[chartrusepengui]

I had a game with one of those guys once. At his whistle I froze watching. I didn't really look at him closely - just enough to know his fist was up and he was trying to communicate for me to report the foul. When I saw everything was calm I moved to endline and stood next to him. He asked if I reported the foul - I said "what foul?" I thought he was going to kill me. It was the longest game of my life.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

have one worse than that. We have a couple guys - varsity level - that when in lead position will signal foul - then tell their partner what they've called and the partner in trail position reports to the table. No switch. They will literally call an entire half without switching.

I've had a few varsity level partners that want to do that during middle school games.

Here is how I was trained and how I'm currently doing it.

1) Whistle and fist up
2) With fist up, announce color and number. "White 23"
3) Lower fist and give preliminary signal. At the same time, verbalize the foul. "Hold"
4) Indicate direction or number of shots. "Red" or "2 shots"
5) If shooting, indicate number of the shooter. "Red 15 is shooter."
6) If throw in, indicate throw-in spot.

Then go report color, number, foul, result.

"White 23, hold. Endline spot."

"White 23, hack. 2 shots."

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by Welpe

"White 23, hold. Endline spot."

"White 23, hack. 2 shots."

Do you say the whole number? Twenty-Three.
Or each digit? Two, three.
Personally, I state the whole number!

[Welpe]

Whole number. We were explicitly instructed NOT to say each digit separately.

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Whole number. We were explicitly instructed NOT to say each digit separately.

We've been told the opposite - each digit seperately with hand signal.

[BBrules]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Whole number. We were explicitly instructed NOT to say each digit separately.

I was watching a GJV game about a week ago, 3 man crew. I thought they actually called a good game but their signals were very odd. One one play an official blew the whistle, up went the fist. When he reported the foul, he used two hands, ten second violation signal. I thought I had missed something...there was no 10 second violation. It was a foul but I couldn't hear what he said to the table. I looked for a #55...was none. About a minute later, 'tweet', fist goes up, and we get the ten second violation signal again, but this time I could hear what he was saying. Foul on #10. Now I understand. I'm just glad it wasn't on #12 - he'd have to take off a shoe to report.

[IchiRef]

Originally Posted by Welpe

5) If shooting, indicate number of the shooter. "Red 15 is shooter."

I have been nervous to implement this step, as I am afraid of reporting the foul on "Red 15." Of course, not doing this have lost the shooter before, although its usually something I pre-game (to help each other out on shooter)

Is it worse to loose the shooter or the player who fouled?...

I would rather loose the shooter, 99% of the time they step to the line.

[FrankHtown]

Originally Posted by IchiRef

I have been nervous to implement this step, as I am afraid of reporting the foul on "Red 15." Of course, not doing this have lost the shooter before, although its usually something I pre-game (to help each other out on shooter)

Is it worse to loose the shooter or the player who fouled?...

I would rather loose the shooter, 99% of the time they step to the line.

Verbalizing the fouler lets the players and your co-officials know who the foul was called on. It kind of sucks when the calling official doesn't say anything, and as the players line up they ask you "Who was it on?" and your partner is 47 feet away at the division line, reporting.

True, but in our area (Houston) they want all the game officials to know who the shooter is. (I guess some coaches have.. umm "unintentionally" ...sent the wrong shooter to the line after a timeout, for example.)

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by IchiRef

I have been nervous to implement this step, as I am afraid of reporting the foul on "Red 15." Of course, not doing this have lost the shooter before, although its usually something I pre-game (to help each other out on shooter)

Is it worse to loose the shooter or the player who fouled?...

I would rather loose the shooter, 99% of the time they step to the line.

It's embarrassing to lose either one. As a 2nd yr. newbie I've done both. This year I've been working hard not to have that happen (I'm a lot better...but not perfect). There was a thread last week about "tricks" to remember the numbers of the player who committed the foul, AND, the shooter if there is one...great thread BTW. As stated earlier, "all mechanics are local." In my neck of the woods the "absolutes" (what the evaluators are looking for) after you've called the foul are:
1) Hold your spot, (prelim signal optional/use to sell if necc.), eye contact with partner, let him know (a) if there will be shots, how many, &# of shooter (b) if no shots, team color and throw-in spot.

2) Move to reporting area, color, player# (whole # one hand), NFHS approved signal, # of shots, OR color of team & location of throw-in.

3) Switch on every foul (long switches can be pre-gamed).

I try to get the # of the player who committed the foul and the # of the shooter (if there is one) and I keep silently repeating them so I don't lose them....or can recall them if something sends me into brain lock....stuff happening between the players, coach piping up about the call, injured player, etc. AND I try to be slow and take my time (still not there yet).