Whats your steps when calling a foul?

[chartrusepengui]

have one worse than that. We have a couple guys - varsity level - that when in lead position will signal foul - then tell their partner what they've called and the partner in trail position reports to the table. No switch. They will literally call an entire half without switching.

We've tried talking to them but - they've been doing it this way for years and "it works" for them.

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

have one worse than that. We have a couple guys - varsity level - that when in lead position will signal foul - then tell their partner what they've called and the partner in trail position reports to the table. No switch. They will literally call an entire half without switching.

We've tried talking to them but - they've been doing it this way for years and "it works" for them.

haha whats sad is thats at the Varsity level. If the NFHS wanted officials to relay the message to their partners it would be in the mechanics of a 3 man crew. BUT they clearly want us to switch and it makes us look alive and happy to be there.

[JRutledge]

I try to go as close to the procedure as possible. Usually when it is a shooting foul I have noticed I might not give the preliminary signal as much as I should, but I still give the signals for 2 shots.

Peace

[chartrusepengui]

I had a game with one of those guys once. At his whistle I froze watching. I didn't really look at him closely - just enough to know his fist was up and he was trying to communicate for me to report the foul. When I saw everything was calm I moved to endline and stood next to him. He asked if I reported the foul - I said "what foul?" I thought he was going to kill me. It was the longest game of my life.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

have one worse than that. We have a couple guys - varsity level - that when in lead position will signal foul - then tell their partner what they've called and the partner in trail position reports to the table. No switch. They will literally call an entire half without switching.

I've had a few varsity level partners that want to do that during middle school games.

Here is how I was trained and how I'm currently doing it.

1) Whistle and fist up
2) With fist up, announce color and number. "White 23"
3) Lower fist and give preliminary signal. At the same time, verbalize the foul. "Hold"
4) Indicate direction or number of shots. "Red" or "2 shots"
5) If shooting, indicate number of the shooter. "Red 15 is shooter."
6) If throw in, indicate throw-in spot.

Then go report color, number, foul, result.

"White 23, hold. Endline spot."

"White 23, hack. 2 shots."

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by Welpe

"White 23, hold. Endline spot."

"White 23, hack. 2 shots."

Do you say the whole number? Twenty-Three.
Or each digit? Two, three.
Personally, I state the whole number!

[Welpe]

Whole number. We were explicitly instructed NOT to say each digit separately.

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Whole number. We were explicitly instructed NOT to say each digit separately.

We've been told the opposite - each digit seperately with hand signal.

[Adam]

Check local listings.

[Welpe]

"All mechanics is local."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

"All mechanics is local."

You could see how they do it in Peoria, too.

[BBrules]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Whole number. We were explicitly instructed NOT to say each digit separately.

I was watching a GJV game about a week ago, 3 man crew. I thought they actually called a good game but their signals were very odd. One one play an official blew the whistle, up went the fist. When he reported the foul, he used two hands, ten second violation signal. I thought I had missed something...there was no 10 second violation. It was a foul but I couldn't hear what he said to the table. I looked for a #55...was none. About a minute later, 'tweet', fist goes up, and we get the ten second violation signal again, but this time I could hear what he was saying. Foul on #10. Now I understand. I'm just glad it wasn't on #12 - he'd have to take off a shoe to report.

[Vinski]

Originally Posted by BBrules

I was watching a GJV game about a week ago, 3 man crew. I thought they actually called a good game but their signals were very odd. One one play an official blew the whistle, up went the fist. When he reported the foul, he used two hands, ten second violation signal. I thought I had missed something...there was no 10 second violation. It was a foul but I couldn't hear what he said to the table. I looked for a #55...was none. About a minute later, 'tweet', fist goes up, and we get the ten second violation signal again, but this time I could hear what he was saying. Foul on #10. Now I understand. I'm just glad it wasn't on #12 - he'd have to take off a shoe to report.

Are you sure he wasn’t just indicating a push?

[BBrules]

Originally Posted by Vinski

Are you sure he wasn’t just indicating a push?

Positive. As he was holding up his 10 fingers he said "White #10" then gave a signal for a illegal use of hands and verbalized it. I think he called it hacking.

[IchiRef]

Originally Posted by Welpe

5) If shooting, indicate number of the shooter. "Red 15 is shooter."

I have been nervous to implement this step, as I am afraid of reporting the foul on "Red 15." Of course, not doing this have lost the shooter before, although its usually something I pre-game (to help each other out on shooter)

Is it worse to loose the shooter or the player who fouled?...

I would rather loose the shooter, 99% of the time they step to the line.