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[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The thing is, it's a throw-away-comment for some coaches, like "call it both ways."

And I personally don't regard that as a throw-away comment. I regard it as an attack on my integrity and I won't put up with it. It's a warning followed by a "T" if the coach is dumb enough to say it again to me. When someone says something like that, imo they're accusing me of being biased.

You can question my judgment but I won't let anyone question my integrity.

Every official has a different line in the sand and a different trigger. That's one of mine. It's up to the coaches to figure out what they can get away with in any particular game. If you let them know, they should have no complaint later if they do cross an official's personal line and get nailed after being warned.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And I personally don't regard that as a throw-away comment. I regard it as an attack on my integrity and I won't put up with it. It's a warning followed by a "T" if the coach is dumb enough to say it again to me. When someone says something like that, imo they're accusing me of being biased.

IMO, it's worse than that. Bias is a matter of attitude. But the only reason to say "call it both ways" is if the official is NOT calling it both ways, that is, acting unfairly.

That's an accusation of cheating. One approach is to ask the coach, "Are you aware that you're accusing me of cheating?" Usually they're not.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

That's an accusation of cheating. One approach is to ask the coach, "Are you aware that you're accusing me of cheating?"

And I've asked coaches that exact same question.

A coach has got a better chance of getting away with calling me an azzhole than getting away with "call it both ways".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

That's an accusation of cheating. One approach is to ask the coach, "Are you aware that you're accusing me of cheating?" Usually they're not.

That's what I meant by "throw away line." They use it because they've heard it a thousand times before, but they don't think about the ramifications. Sort of like "over the back" and "reach." They don't think about the fact that you can't have a foul without contact, so they continually toss it around.

I think they need to be aware of what it means, even though it's not as strong a trigger for me as it is for JR. I think it's similar to telling me the foul count.