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Old Tue Jan 05, 2010, 05:26am
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Free throw violation?

BV Game the other night, H1 was in process of shooting free throws. While doing a few dribbles before 1st shot, the ball goes off foot of H1 & he steps over the line to get the ball. Is this a violation?

The officials didn't call it as such, yet the V Coach & V fans were yelling a violation happened.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2010, 07:21am
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BV Game the other night, H1 was in process of shooting free throws. While doing a few dribbles before 1st shot, the ball goes off foot of H1 & he steps over the line to get the ball. Is this a violation?

The officials didn't call it as such, yet the V Coach & V fans were yelling a violation happened.
Yes it is.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2010, 07:41am
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9.1.1.a ...

9.1.1 SITUATION: A1, at the free-throw line to attempt a free throw: (a) muffs
the pass from the official and it rolls forward; or (b) while performing his/her
habitual dribbles prior to the release, accidentally allows the ball to deflect off
his/her foot into the lane. RULING: In (a), the official should sound the whistle to
prevent any violations and then start the free throw procedure again. No freethrow
violation should be called in this situation. In (b), a free-throw violation
shall be called on A1. (9-1-3a, e)
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2010, 08:39am
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9.1.1 SITUATION: A1, at the free-throw line to attempt a free throw: (a) muffs
the pass from the official and it rolls forward; or (b) while performing his/her
habitual dribbles prior to the release, accidentally allows the ball to deflect off
his/her foot into the lane. RULING: In (a), the official should sound the whistle to
prevent any violations and then start the free throw procedure again. No freethrow
violation should be called in this situation. In (b), a free-throw violation
shall be called on A1. (9-1-3a, e)
Can anyone recite the recent history when this situation was changed/clarified to where the violation must be called?
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2010, 09:02am
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Can anyone recite the recent history when this situation was changed/clarified to where the violation must be called?
Changed last year ('08-'09).

Before that, the ruling in part(b) was something like "blow the whistle to prevent a violation, caution the shooter to be more careful and readminister the FT."
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2010, 09:24am
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Changed last year ('08-'09).

Before that, the ruling in part(b) was something like "blow the whistle to prevent a violation, caution the shooter to be more careful and readminister the FT."
I knew it...I was asked this question by a JV official earlier this season and I told him to blow it dead and readminister. He thought it was a violation. I told him I would look it up while we got dressed and he finished his game. Sure enough, when I looked it up it's now a violation. I feel a little vindicated that I was right at some point in time. I must've missed this change.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2010, 09:49am
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Changed last year ('08-'09).

Before that, the ruling in part(b) was something like "blow the whistle to prevent a violation, caution the shooter to be more careful and readminister the FT."
As usual, Bob has nailed this one. Per the 2007-08 Case Book:
9.1.1 Situation: A1, at the free throw line to attempt a free throw....(b) accidentally drops the ball before the throwing motion is started. RULING: In...(b) the official should sound the whistle to prevent any violations and then start the free throw procedure again. No free-throw violation should be called in this situation.

Per 2008-09 Case Book:
In (b) a violation should be called on A1.

The ruling for a "muff" remains as it did in the 2007-08 Case Book. The administering official is to sound his/her whistle immediately -- BEFORE the shooter crosses the line -- in order to prevent a violation and then start the free throw procedure again.

A related question, the Rules Book and Officials Manual use the shaded text method to show changes in Rules/Procedures. Why is the Case Book not similarly shaded? It would be really nice to include a listing of Cases that are no longer valid in the back of the book as well.
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