out of bounds pass

[representing]

Originally Posted by frozenrope22

After a made basket when a player is able to run the end line to inbound the ball can they also pass to another player who is also out of bounds and then that player pass the ball into play. I vaguely remember this as an old trick play to beat a full court press.

Yes, player has to step out of bounds first before receiving a pass. If player is in the air and receives the pass before landing out of bounds, it's a legal throw-in and the player stepped out of bounds.

[tjones1]

Check out 7-5-7.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by representing

Yes, player has to step out of bounds first before receiving a pass. If player is in the air and receives the pass before landing out of bounds, it's a legal throw-in and the player stepped out of bounds.

Are you sure about that? Let's specify that the passed ball remains on the OOB side of the end line boundary.

[representing]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Are you sure about that? Let's specify that the passed ball remains on the OOB side of the end line boundary.

player's last established position is in-bounds. It's just like backcourt. If ball is passed to a player who was in the FC, you would call BC even if the ball never broke the half-line boundary.

EDIT: I got what you're asking me. Ok, maybe not a legal throw-in but it is a violation because player's last established position was in-bounds.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by representing

player's last established position is in-bounds. It's just like backcourt. If ball is passed to a player who was in the FC, you would call BC even if the ball never broke the half-line boundary.

Please take some time to carefully examine what I specified and think about it. When you have given it due consideration, post your response. You may learn something.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by representing

EDIT: I got what you're asking me. Ok, maybe not a legal throw-in but it is a violation because player's last established position was in-bounds.

Nope, you have the wrong reason, and that is the point which I am trying to get you to understand.

[representing]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Nope, you have the wrong reason, and that is the point which I am trying to get you to understand.

ok, then explain to me why this would not be a violation if a player jumps from in-bounds and catches the ball before landing out of bounds...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by representing

ok, then explain to me why this would not be a violation if a player jumps from in-bounds and catches the ball before landing out of bounds...

As long as you have the question wrong, you won't get the answe right. That's not what he's saying.

[representing]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

As long as you have the question wrong, you won't get the answe right. That's not what he's saying.

Then I am confused cause I don't know what anyone is talking about anymore. I simply said that a second throw-in player has to establish an out-of-bounds position in order to be able to throw-in the ball. If he/she jumps from in-bounds and, while in the air, catches the the ball before landing out of bounds, that is a violation.

I am going to bed but I look forward to an explanation of whatever it is you or nevada is talking about. Thank you

[Adam]

Originally Posted by representing

Yes, player has to step out of bounds first before receiving a pass. If player is in the air and receives the pass before landing out of bounds, it's a legal throw-in and the player stepped out of bounds.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Are you sure about that? Let's specify that the passed ball remains on the OOB side of the end line boundary.

Note what he highlighted.
Let me provide a play for you:
End line throwin, A1 throws a pass to A2, who is standing in bounds. The ball never crosses the OOB plane, but A2 reaches across while standing in bounds and catches the thrown ball.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by representing

Then I am confused cause I don't know what anyone is talking about anymore. I simply said that a second throw-in player has to establish an out-of-bounds position in order to be able to throw-in the ball. If he/she jumps from in-bounds and, while in the air, catches the the ball before landing out of bounds, that is a violation.

I am going to bed but I look forward to an explanation of whatever it is you or nevada is talking about. Thank you

It is a violation, but it is not an OOB violation, which would put the ensuing throw-in for the opponent at that spot instead of back at the location from which the throw-in pass was made. That means that you could be on the other side of the basket.

PS What I put in red from your post is also incorrect. Remember that a player has OOB status with one foot inbounds and one foot touching OOB. Would you allow the second player to receive a pass and then make a throw-in from that position?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Note what he highlighted.
Let me provide a play for you:
End line throwin, A1 throws a pass to A2, who is standing in bounds. The ball never crosses the OOB plane, but A2 reaches across while standing in bounds and catches the thrown ball.

You are making this too easy for him. I was trying to get this ACE to think and realize that he doesn't know as much as he thinks that he knows.

[Upward ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Note what he highlighted.
Let me provide a play for you:
End line throwin, A1 throws a pass to A2, who is standing in bounds. The ball never crosses the OOB plane, but A2 reaches across while standing in bounds and catches the thrown ball.

[QUOTE=Nevadaref;648222]It is a violation, but it is not an OOB violation, which would put the ensuing throw-in for the opponent at that spot instead of back at the location from which the throw-in pass was made. That means that you could be on the other side of the basket.

PS What I put in red from your post is also incorrect. Remember that a player has OOB status with one foot inbounds and one foot touching OOB. Would you allow the second player to receive a pass and then make a throw-in from that position?


.Throw-in violation, 9-2-3 . If A1 is throwing in to A2 who is inbounds (airborne or otherwise) then it's not an endline throw-in, now that you've specified the ball was still on the OOB side (which wasn't originally mentioned). 7-5-7: ... may pass the ball along the endline to a teammate(s) outside the boundary. these qoutes come with my automatic "newbie disclaimer" , I'm sure billymac can provide the appropriate photo.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Upward ref

Throw-in violation, 9-2-3 . If A1 is throwing in to A2 who is inbounds (airborne or otherwise) then it's not an endline throw-in, now that you've specified the ball was still on the OOB side (which wasn't originally mentioned). 7-5-7: ... may pass the ball along the endline to a teammate(s) outside the boundary. these qoutes come with my automatic "newbie disclaimer" , I'm sure billymac can provide the appropriate photo.

I'm not sure I'm following you here.
Let's go back to the original play:
Endline throwin, A1 has the ball. He throws towards A2 who is trying to get OOB but doesn't make it down in time. The ball stays on the OOB side of the plane the entire time, and A2 jumps from in bounds and catches the ball just before landing OOB.

What is the violation, and why does it matter?

[Upward ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not sure I'm following you here.
Let's go back to the original play:
Endline throwin, A1 has the ball. He throws towards A2 who is trying to get OOB but doesn't make it down in time. The ball stays on the OOB side of the plane the entire time, and A2 jumps from in bounds and catches the ball just before landing OOB.

What is the violation, and why does it matter?

Athough it's an endline throw in , the conditions haven't been met by teammates being outside the boundary,therefore ( IMO of course) it's an "ordinary" throw in . the violation would be for touching/grabbing the ball while it was out of bounds; 7-6-2 ... shall not touch a teammate while it is on the out of bounds side of the throw in boundary plane . If it's a violation, it matters because you're loosing the ball . aren't you 'sposed to give the rookies answers, or questions ?