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frozenrope22 Sun Jan 03, 2010 07:13pm

out of bounds pass
 
After a made basket when a player is able to run the end line to inbound the ball can they also pass to another player who is also out of bounds and then that player pass the ball into play. I vaguely remember this as an old trick play to beat a full court press.

representing Sun Jan 03, 2010 07:19pm

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Originally Posted by frozenrope22 (Post 648147)
After a made basket when a player is able to run the end line to inbound the ball can they also pass to another player who is also out of bounds and then that player pass the ball into play. I vaguely remember this as an old trick play to beat a full court press.

Yes, player has to step out of bounds first before receiving a pass. If player is in the air and receives the pass before landing out of bounds, it's a legal throw-in and the player stepped out of bounds.

tjones1 Sun Jan 03, 2010 07:34pm

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grunewar Sun Jan 03, 2010 07:42pm

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Originally Posted by frozenrope22 (Post 648147)
I vaguely remember this as an old trick play to beat a full court press.

Maybe just smart basketball. I don't know about others, but I seldom see this play utilized.

StripesOhio Sun Jan 03, 2010 09:08pm

Totally legal, and remember the defense cannot touch the ball unless it crosses the plane of the OOB line.

Nevadaref Sun Jan 03, 2010 09:11pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 648150)
Yes, player has to step out of bounds first before receiving a pass. If player is in the air and receives the pass before landing out of bounds, it's a legal throw-in and the player stepped out of bounds.

Are you sure about that? Let's specify that the passed ball remains on the OOB side of the end line boundary.

representing Sun Jan 03, 2010 09:36pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 648180)
Are you sure about that? Let's specify that the passed ball remains on the OOB side of the end line boundary.

player's last established position is in-bounds. It's just like backcourt. If ball is passed to a player who was in the FC, you would call BC even if the ball never broke the half-line boundary.

EDIT: I got what you're asking me. Ok, maybe not a legal throw-in but it is a violation because player's last established position was in-bounds.

Nevadaref Sun Jan 03, 2010 09:38pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 648186)
player's last established position is in-bounds. It's just like backcourt. If ball is passed to a player who was in the FC, you would call BC even if the ball never broke the half-line boundary.

Please take some time to carefully examine what I specified and think about it. When you have given it due consideration, post your response. You may learn something.

Nevadaref Sun Jan 03, 2010 09:40pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 648186)
EDIT: I got what you're asking me. Ok, maybe not a legal throw-in but it is a violation because player's last established position was in-bounds.

Nope, you have the wrong reason, and that is the point which I am trying to get you to understand.

representing Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:14pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 648188)
Nope, you have the wrong reason, and that is the point which I am trying to get you to understand.

ok, then explain to me why this would not be a violation if a player jumps from in-bounds and catches the ball before landing out of bounds...

icallfouls Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:55pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 648158)
Maybe just smart basketball. I don't know about others, but I seldom see this play utilized.

Watched the Denver U v Seattle U game a few weeks back and Denver used this play extensively in the last minutes of the ball game.

Adam Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:26pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 648199)
ok, then explain to me why this would not be a violation if a player jumps from in-bounds and catches the ball before landing out of bounds...

As long as you have the question wrong, you won't get the answe right. That's not what he's saying.

chseagle Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:59pm

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Originally Posted by icallfouls (Post 648204)
Watched the Denver U v Seattle U game a few weeks back and Denver used this play extensively in the last minutes of the ball game.

It wasn't just the last minutes of the game, it was throughout the game that Denver U. used the 2-person OOB plays.

representing Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:15am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 648208)
As long as you have the question wrong, you won't get the answe right. That's not what he's saying.

Then I am confused cause I don't know what anyone is talking about anymore. I simply said that a second throw-in player has to establish an out-of-bounds position in order to be able to throw-in the ball. If he/she jumps from in-bounds and, while in the air, catches the the ball before landing out of bounds, that is a violation.

I am going to bed but I look forward to an explanation of whatever it is you or nevada is talking about. Thank you

Adam Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:41am

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 648150)
Yes, player has to step out of bounds first before receiving a pass. If player is in the air and receives the pass before landing out of bounds, it's a legal throw-in and the player stepped out of bounds.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 648180)
Are you sure about that? Let's specify that the passed ball remains on the OOB side of the end line boundary.

Note what he highlighted.
Let me provide a play for you:
End line throwin, A1 throws a pass to A2, who is standing in bounds. The ball never crosses the OOB plane, but A2 reaches across while standing in bounds and catches the thrown ball.


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