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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 10:31am
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Everyone survive their tourneys

Did all of you survive your Holiday Tourneys? I had two games? HS Girls. First was a blow out by the eventual winner of the tourney against the eventual number 5 finisher. The second was the 5th place game. Good game ... not the best teams but a really fun game nonetheless. I love holiday tourneys. Now it's a JV/V combo Monday night.
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 11:26am
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Did all of you survive your Holiday Tourneys? I had two games? HS Girls. First was a blow out by the eventual winner of the tourney against the eventual number 5 finisher. The second was the 5th place game. Good game ... not the best teams but a really fun game nonetheless. I love holiday tourneys. Now it's a JV/V combo Monday night.
I don't anticipate hearing from those who did not.....
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 11:39am
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Survive is right. Seven games, 3 Ts (2 players and 1 head coach), one overtime and one almost overtime if the kid makes a wide open layup with a second to go. Now I am looking forward to a break until January 5.

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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 12:23pm
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I don't anticipate hearing from those who did not.....
Maybe she can help. Yeah, right.

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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 12:57pm
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Funny you should mention that........ I was assigned to work the championship game of a small (4 team) girls tournament on Tuesday night. Smaller (2A) schools. Pretty laid-back tournament... the home team got bounced in the first round so the championship game was two teams who were quite a ways from home. Probably a total of 100 people in the stands. First half is pretty routine.... except that the white team's crowd is whining about everything. Even routine OOB calls. The blue team's crowd is absolutely perfect, just cheering their team and not having any negative comments. I am just laughing inside thinking, "this is one of the reasons that I do not help out with much girls ball anymore."

About halfway through the 3rd quarter, the ball goes out of bounds in front of my partner. Routine OOB. He correctly gives it to blue. White crowd (who is seated across from the play and all the way on the other end of the gym) goes ballastic. I have had enough. I put my hand up to prevent my partner from putting the ball inbounds. I walk to the other end, stand right in front of the 50 fans of the white team, hit my whistle and say (in my parent voice), "let the players play, let the refs ref. We do not need comments on every call." The gym goes dead silent. I turn back around and walk to my position. I am thinking, "oh boy, you've done it now dummy - you're really gonna get it." I was expecting that one moron to yell, "well, call it right then!" as I walked away. Instead, I hear this quiet applause that gets louder and louder. I turn around and the blue section is clapping, including 5 of them who are standing while they applaud. Two girls of the WHITE team walk by me and say, "thank you."

I look at my partners and they are both smiling in disbelief. We never heard another word and the game went right down to the end as white missed a jumpshot at the end to lose by one.

Not sure I'd ever try that again....... The stars must have been perfectly aligned. :-)
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 01:10pm
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I think I had 11 games, two championships (one went to overtime) and my T average went down.

My next game is Tuesday and it will probably be the most challenging situation for me so far this year.
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 01:32pm
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My next game is Tuesday and it will probably be the most challenging situation for me so far this year.
How come?
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 02:54pm
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Funny you should mention that........ I was assigned to work the championship game of a small (4 team) girls tournament on Tuesday night. Smaller (2A) schools. Pretty laid-back tournament... the home team got bounced in the first round so the championship game was two teams who were quite a ways from home. Probably a total of 100 people in the stands. First half is pretty routine.... except that the white team's crowd is whining about everything. Even routine OOB calls. The blue team's crowd is absolutely perfect, just cheering their team and not having any negative comments. I am just laughing inside thinking, "this is one of the reasons that I do not help out with much girls ball anymore."

About halfway through the 3rd quarter, the ball goes out of bounds in front of my partner. Routine OOB. He correctly gives it to blue. White crowd (who is seated across from the play and all the way on the other end of the gym) goes ballastic. I have had enough. I put my hand up to prevent my partner from putting the ball inbounds. I walk to the other end, stand right in front of the 50 fans of the white team, hit my whistle and say (in my parent voice), "let the players play, let the refs ref. We do not need comments on every call." The gym goes dead silent. I turn back around and walk to my position. I am thinking, "oh boy, you've done it now dummy - you're really gonna get it." I was expecting that one moron to yell, "well, call it right then!" as I walked away. Instead, I hear this quiet applause that gets louder and louder. I turn around and the blue section is clapping, including 5 of them who are standing while they applaud. Two girls of the WHITE team walk by me and say, "thank you."

I look at my partners and they are both smiling in disbelief. We never heard another word and the game went right down to the end as white missed a jumpshot at the end to lose by one.

Not sure I'd ever try that again....... The stars must have been perfectly aligned. :-)
Well, an Officials Forum "Shut up" probably would not have been as effective.
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Old Sat Jan 02, 2010, 01:53pm
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Yes and No.....

I had a great game....I got to work (girls) Mater Dei vs. Jefferson (Oregon's defending 5A state champs). That was a real treat. Great ball (a lot closer game than anyone expected...the lead was down to 6 midway through the 4th before Mater Dei stomped on the accelerator and put it away), great coaches, great crowd. That was a ball of fun and even though I work more boys ball than girls, I'd take that game any day.

Fast forward a couple of days....

Sitting at home one afternoon with a game schedule at 7:45pm. When an unexpected snowstorm hits. The site is normally about 40-45 minutes away. My partner and I plan to leave early to account for the weather. He leaves his house at 4:45 to pick me up (normally 5 minutes away) and makes it to my house at 5:10. We hit the road. After a long and torturous journey, we roll into the gym at....

8:25-8:30...halftime!!

The guys who worked the first half were not even scheduled for the game before...they were there from earlier having worked for others who never even made it. We would have let them finish it but they were ready to go after having been there all day.

Second have went fast (not a great game).....in the door and out in about 35 minutes......then another 2.5 hours home.

Over 6 hours of dirve time for 2 quarters of ball....ouch.
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Old Sat Jan 02, 2010, 03:42pm
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Between December 18 and December 30 I worked 14 varsity holiday tournament games at six different locations in five different cities/towns. Attendance at these events in my area of Georgia has dramatically dropped in recent years. They are still fun to work, but smaller crowds means more individual "heckler" voices heard by officials and greater frustration with the behavior of spectators and coaches.

I worked several opening round games, several consolation games, and one really good girls' semi-final contest. Of the 14 games, only three were settled by six points or less and one of those three was a double-overtime game.

Most Georgia holiday tournament games are worked by "district partnership" crews. These are crews made up of members from more than one officials' association. Officials are often evaluated by state office personnel during these games.

A few days off before we crank it back up January 5.
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Old Sat Jan 02, 2010, 03:53pm
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one of those three was a double-overtime game.
What the H-E-double hockey sticks is wrong with you? Haven't you been paying attention to anything I've said?
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Old Sat Jan 02, 2010, 03:59pm
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I know!!!! Bad officiating!!! :-)
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I know!!!! Bad officiating!!! :-)
Next thing you know, you'll be claiming you've forgotten the first rule of officiating!
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Next thing you know, you'll be claiming you've forgotten the first rule of officiating!
HoopsRefJunior: I can see that you have posted only two dozen times, so I expect that you don't know Mark Padgett's first rule of officiating. Please, if you believe in a higher power, and that the world is basically a good, just, place, don't ask what this rule is.
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