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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 01:30am
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Lots of firsts for me this season...

Championship game of a GS holiday tournament. I thought I was going to be there all day. Both teams were in the bonus by the end of the first quarter. My partner made a couple of phantom calls, but also helped me out when I didn't have a great angle.

Most intense crowd I've had yet, and they sure did voice their opinion. Game went to OT, and during the OT, one particular guy who had been talking all game long decided to tell my partner that we were f***ing horse**** referees.

Now, I thought we called a pretty darn good, consistent game. Tight, but consistent. This guy didn't agree.

My partner took it upon himself to see the guy out of the gym. He left without a problem. Had a police officer escort us to the locker room and to my car.

Other than that it was fun.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 01:38am
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Lots of firsts for me this season...

Championship game of a GS holiday tournament. I thought I was going to be there all day. Both teams were in the bonus by the end of the first quarter. My partner made a couple of phantom calls, but also helped me out when I didn't have a great angle.

Most intense crowd I've had yet, and they sure did voice their opinion. Game went to OT, and during the OT, one particular guy who had been talking all game long decided to tell my partner that we were f***ing horse**** referees.

Now, I thought we called a pretty darn good, consistent game. Tight, but consistent. This guy didn't agree.

My partner took it upon himself to see the guy out of the gym. He left without a problem. Had a police officer escort us to the locker room and to my car.

Other than that it was fun.
I assume that GS means either Grade School or Grammar School.
What a lovely holiday experience for you. Those people were such wonderful examples for this time of the year. Continue spreading the holiday cheer.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 01:51am
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I assume that GS means either Grade School or Grammar School.
What a lovely holiday experience for you. Those people were such wonderful examples for this time of the year. Continue spreading the holiday cheer.
Girl's Sophomore...sorry should have spelled it out
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 02:11am
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Oh, that's right, some states have Freshman, Sophomore, and JV games as well as the Varsity contest.

My mistake, sorry.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 02:18am
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Oh, that's right, some states have Freshman, Sophomore, and JV games as well as the Varsity contest.

My mistake, sorry.
No worries. Sometimes I wonder if it's just schools in my area. I'm in the suburbs of Chicago and high schools are much larger than they might be in southern Illinois.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 02:25am
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No worries. Sometimes I wonder if it's just schools in my area. I'm in the suburbs of Chicago and high schools are much larger than they might be in southern Illinois.
There are high schools just as large and in many cases bigger than those in and around specific high schools in Chicago. It is just in the Chicago area they call the game before the varsity sophomore games.

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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 02:36am
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There are high schools just as large and in many cases bigger than those in and around specific high schools in Chicago. It is just in the Chicago area they call the game before the varsity sophomore games.
I was referring to what they do in Utah, which is actually have FOUR levels of play: Fr, Soph, JV, and Varsity. They don't just call the game before the Varsity contest the Sophomore game, they actually have both a Sophomore game AND a JV game.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 02:39am
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I was referring to what they do in Utah, which is actually have FOUR levels of play: Fr, Soph, JV, and Varsity. They don't just call the game before the Varsity contest the Sophomore game, they actually have both a Sophomore game AND a JV game.
Many places around here do that as well. I know for a fact that the conference my alma mater belongs to does, and I've got a JV game scheduled outside that conference as well.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 09:48am
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I was referring to what they do in Utah, which is actually have FOUR levels of play: Fr, Soph, JV, and Varsity. They don't just call the game before the Varsity contest the Sophomore game, they actually have both a Sophomore game AND a JV game.
That is how it is done in a lot of places here. In addition, many high schools also have multiple freshman teams.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 10:10am
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I was referring to what they do in Utah, which is actually have FOUR levels of play: Fr, Soph, JV, and Varsity. They don't just call the game before the Varsity contest the Sophomore game, they actually have both a Sophomore game AND a JV game.
Pretty much the same here. Soph game precedes Varsity while usually a frosh a/b doubleheader is played in another gym. JV games are typically Saturday mornings or off days.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 10:25am
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Lots of firsts for me this season...

Championship game of a GS holiday tournament. I thought I was going to be there all day. Both teams were in the bonus by the end of the first quarter. My partner made a couple of phantom calls, but also helped me out when I didn't have a great angle.

Most intense crowd I've had yet, and they sure did voice their opinion. Game went to OT, and during the OT, one particular guy who had been talking all game long decided to tell my partner that we were f***ing horse**** referees.

Now, I thought we called a pretty darn good, consistent game. Tight, but consistent. This guy didn't agree.

My partner took it upon himself to see the guy out of the gym. He left without a problem. Had a police officer escort us to the locker room and to my car.

Other than that it was fun.
Had several soph boys tournies over holidays from one assignor which I always enjoy doing, two games, mornings or afternoons and the competition is strong. Crowds not being large, you can always hear the Dad yelling about the refs. I put the warning signal out early on this nonsense. School management is more than cooperative in handling and Dad realizes it's not worth getting tossed.

As Barney Fife like to say, "nip it in the bud".
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Learn something new here every day......

Never heard of multiple-teams at one school for one age group/class. Now I'm hearing about b and c squads! Wow!

I ref in two-counties. One county has large - sometimes 15 players/team MS (7th and 8th grade) teams and then one F, JV, and V team/school. The other county has no MS and just one F, JV, and V team/school and larger Wreck Ball leagues (to make up the difference I suppose).

I always feel bad for those large squad coaches as they try to get each player some playing time - in six and seven minute quarters.....and oh yeah, win the game too!
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 11:08am
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Pretty much the same here. Soph game precedes Varsity while usually a frosh a/b doubleheader is played in another gym. JV games are typically Saturday mornings or off days.
This is how it was in Des Moines when I was there. The future varsity players, for the most part, were on the sophomore teams. The sophomore games had better turnout, but then again, they were before the V games.
Around here, there are no sophomore teams. Varsity, JV, and Freshman.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 11:54am
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This is how it was in Des Moines when I was there. The future varsity players, for the most part, were on the sophomore teams. The sophomore games had better turnout, but then again, they were before the V games.
Around here, there are no sophomore teams. Varsity, JV, and Freshman.
I'm going to guess, I think it's split 50/50 on JV vs Soph. A friend is in Suburban Atlanta and no Sophs but JV. Might be a numbers thing. I live in a very populated area.
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It's definitely a numbers thing. The school I grew up going to had 3 teams in 7th and 8th, two Freshman Teams, and then a soph, JV, Var. Now they have Three freshman teams

But I now I officiate some schools that have a JV and Var team only.

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