Designated spot after timeout / made basket?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That makes sense as that person is simply telling you that your decision to not award FTs because of the location of the player (your verbalization of "on the floor") is incorrect. You just aren't understanding the protest.

Granted, the verbalization "on the floor" is incorrect, from a rulebook standpoint.
But this is not a literal argument. The player can be off the floor for an extended period of time which is obvious to everyone and still not be in the act of shooting.

If a coach asks "Was it (the foul) on the floor?" Is it ok for me to simply say yes or is it necessary to give a language lesson?

Is it incorrect? yes Is it misleading? no Is this issue worthy of this many posts? definitely not


I've asked this before: Why do we not complain when a coach yells for a "walking" call? Does the word walk appear anywhere in the books?

[Back In The Saddle]

Must be a regional thing, but I don't recall hearing a coach ever asking for "walking". But I've worked with a much older guy who occasionally refers to traveling as "progression".

Once you get past the ideological purity arguments, the reality is that it's all about communication. If the words you or I choose do not effectively communicate, we are using the wrong words. If they do effectively communicate, they are not wrong. However, there may be words we could chose that communicate even more effectively. I think we ought to always be open to that possibility and be on the look out for better alternatives.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If a coach asks "Was it (the foul) on the floor?" Is it ok for me to simply say yes or is it necessary to give a language lesson?

Neither. Say, "yes, it was before the shot."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Granted, the verbalization "on the floor" is incorrect, from a rulebook standpoint.
But this is not a literal argument. The player can be off the floor for an extended period of time which is obvious to everyone and still not be in the act of shooting.

If a coach asks "Was it (the foul) on the floor?" Is it ok for me to simply say yes or is it necessary to give a language lesson?

Is it incorrect? yes Is it misleading? no Is this issue worthy of this many posts? definitely not


I've asked this before: Why do we not complain when a coach yells for a "walking" call? Does the word walk appear anywhere in the books?

1. If a coach asks me if it was "on the floor" after I've waved off a shot, my answer is "it was before the shot." It doesn't really take any longer than "yes" and it's actually accurate.

2. "On the floor" fits into a list of misleading phrases and signals that perpetuate myths.

a) travel signal on a throwin spot violatoin
b) "reach"
c) "over the back"
d) "wait til it hits the rim"
e) "everyone move back behind the half court line"

3. Coaches here don't ask for "walking," and the good ones don't ask for reaches or over the back calls.