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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 09:32pm
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Phased out from what? Adams, last I heard, doesn't hire a single official in a single conference.
Very true as a recent SI article notes. However, Adams does control the tournament assignments, and time will tell how much he can get the different conference supervisors to buy in to his way of thinking.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 09:45pm
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Very true as a recent SI article notes. However, Adams does control the tournament assignments, and time will tell how much he can get the different conference supervisors to buy in to his way of thinking.
I'm guessing he will have more influence on younger officials who want their moments in the tourney. Look at the list of "most working" NCAA guys, though, and the old timers still dominate, many of whom aren't Adams favorites come March.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 09:47pm
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I'm guessing he will have more influence on younger officials who want their moments in the tourney. Look at the list of "most working" NCAA guys, though, and the old timers still dominate, many of whom aren't Adams favorites come March.
Those are the guys whom I believe Adams will be attempting to phase out, and my comment was intended to be taken in that manner. As the two of us have now noted, only time will tell if that comes to fruition.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 02:32am
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I'm guessing he will have more influence on younger officials who want their moments in the tourney. Look at the list of "most working" NCAA guys, though, and the old timers still dominate, many of whom aren't Adams favorites come March.
Not really true. There were a lot of old timers that did not even work the tournament and there were many if they did work any games, they got one game. Many officials that worked further in the NCAA Tournament were newer or not the "big names" that worked in the past. And I think we can all think of some people that are big names and see the games they got this past season. And if they go to a regional assigning process, then you will have even fewer of the big names working if the NCAA controls the process on some level.

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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 09:34am
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Not really true. There were a lot of old timers that did not even work the tournament and there were many if they did work any games, they got one game. Many officials that worked further in the NCAA Tournament were newer or not the "big names" that worked in the past. And I think we can all think of some people that are big names and see the games they got this past season. And if they go to a regional assigning process, then you will have even fewer of the big names working if the NCAA controls the process on some level.

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I meant "look who's working the most games" not the ones in March. For the Welmers, et al, they are looking at quantity and they get all they want. Methinks they've already accepted they aren't getting to a Final Four and will just keep on keeping on.
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I meant "look who's working the most games" not the ones in March. For the Welmers, et al, they are looking at quantity and they get all they want. Methinks they've already accepted they aren't getting to a Final Four and will just keep on keeping on.
Yeah, but I've read a couple articles on Welmer and he has not be happy about his tournament assignments.
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I meant "look who's working the most games" not the ones in March. For the Welmers, et al, they are looking at quantity and they get all they want. Methinks they've already accepted they aren't getting to a Final Four and will just keep on keeping on.
True, but Welmer is older and will soon not be around like many of those other officials. He already got hurt last year and missed most of the year last season. And there were folks that took his games last season. And Welmer is about the only exception that works a lot of games and never works the tournament very far. Almost everyone else that works a lot of games or conference tournaments work deep into the tournament. Those guys in many cases sat home for most of the tournament. And if Adams does not assign those guys anymore, it is going to be hard for those guys to be justified when they will not see them deep into the playoffs. So I think by default you will see different guys as a result of what is assigned consistently in the tournament.
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