Foul after the last buzzer

[BillyMac]

6-7: The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when:
ART. 6 Time expires for a quarter or extra period (see exception a below).
ART. 7 A foul occurs (see exceptions a, b and c below).
EXCEPTION: The ball does not become dead until the try or tap ends, or until the airborne shooter returns to the floor, when:
a. Article 5, 6, or 7 occurs while a try or tap for a field goal is in flight.
c. Article 7 occurs by any opponent of a player who has started a try or tap for goal (is in the act of shooting) before the foul occurred, provided time did not expire before the ball was in flight.

I think that this citation has everything that I need; time expires, foul occurs, try in flight, airborne shooter, returns to floor. I just need to think my way around the several "or's" to fully understand it. Help would be appreciated.

Here's the situation again, with my notes in parentheses: Shooter becomes airborne, ball is released on a try, horn sounds after release (horn doesn't end period because ball is still in flight), ball is blocked by defender into the bleachers, making it definite it will not go in (one definition of the end of a try, since ball is not in flight anymore, maybe the period ends here), airborne shooter is then fouled, not intentional or flagrant, by a secondary defender before landing (the before landing makes this a player in the act of shooting, so maybe the period doesn't end until the player lands).

There must be a simple answer to this just staring me in the face? I must be over-complicating this. Does the horn and certainty of an unsuccessful try end the period, or does the period not end until the airborne shooter lands?

When does the damn period end? Someone please put me out of my misery. I wish I had never brought this up and had just answered christianH's question.

[christianH]

Hi Billymac,

If you were under FIBA rules I think the answer would be :

On Referees Duties and Powers:

Art 46.13 - ( in bold! )Have the power to make decisions on any point not specifically covered by these rules.

But maybe I am being just lazy.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by christianH

Have the power to make decisions on any point not specifically covered by these rules.

Thanks. Nice try. But this situation is definitely covered by the rules. I'm just having trouble navigating my way through them.

[jdw3018]

The EXCEPTION above answers it, Billy. The ball does not become dead until the airborne shooter returns to the floor.

So, to answer the OP, the official could call a foul after the horn but while the ball was in the air and/or until the airborne shooter returns to the ground. But, the official will have to determine the contact was actually a foul. I have no idea if a foul should have been called in your scenario.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

The ball does not become dead until the airborne shooter returns to the floor.

Sounds good, I would love to agree with you, but: The ball does not become dead until the airborne shooter returns to the floor, when: Article 5, 6, or 7 occurs while a try or tap for a field goal is in flight.

4-41: The try ends when it is certain the throw is unsuccessful.

The try ended, we've got a non try heading out of bounds, before the contact, and before the airborne shooter lands, so the exception can't be used here? I think? This is giving me a headache.