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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:11pm
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I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.
As I stated, I'd call it on A2 in the first.

In the second, would you consider a flagrant T?
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:15pm
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In the second, would you consider a flagrant T?
Good question. Can there be a flagrant T involving contact during a live ball?
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:18pm
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Good question. Can there be a flagrant T involving contact during a live ball?
Hmm. Not for contact. So, flagrant personal?

This is basically intentionally stepping on an opponent. I think I'd go w/ flagrant here.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:48pm
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Agree - flagrant personal.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:49pm
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Hmm. Not for contact. So, flagrant personal?

This is basically intentionally stepping on an opponent. I think I'd go w/ flagrant here.
I think if you are going to go flagrant, flagrant personal.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:52pm
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I think if you are going to go flagrant, flagrant personal.
Yep. We would actually be penalizing the act of stepping on an opponent (flagrant personal) rather than the act of jumping off someone (technical).
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 05:19pm
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JMHO,

If I were going with a flagrant on this, it would be a flagrant T. I'm not penalizing the contact per se, which was not "of a violent or savage nature." I'm penalizing the player's unsporting behavior.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 05:25pm
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JMHO,

If I were going with a flagrant on this, it would be a flagrant T. I'm not penalizing the contact per se, which was not "of a violent or savage nature." I'm penalizing the player's unsporting behavior.
I can see that. Do you think flagrant (one way or the other) is the right call here?
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 09:44pm
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JMHO,

If I were going with a flagrant on this, it would be a flagrant T. I'm not penalizing the contact per se, which was not "of a violent or savage nature." I'm penalizing the player's unsporting behavior.
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I can see your point, but IMHO jumping off of someone's back could be extremely dangerous - all kinds of potential for serious injury (think spine and kidneys). Think I'd go with the flagrant personal.....
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