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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 08:21pm
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We do the captain's meeting at 12 and then the R heads to the table.

If the book isn't ready, I talk to the timer. If the timer isn't there, I'll grab the ball and take my traditional 3 pounds of air out of it. If the ball isn't there, I'll test the AP arrow. If the AP arrow isn't there (don't laugh -- I worked a juco game without one), I go back and tell my partner so we can have a bit of a laugh. I'll go back in a few minutes.

I take the rules seriously, but we simply do not have problems with this. 1 game in 25 might have the situation where the book isn't ready.
Captains at 12? That's too early.

Out on floor by 15
book somewhere between 12 and 10
captains between 6 and 4
U goes over to table at 1 to collect ball and give to R (in games without intros and National Anthem)
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 10:04pm
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Captains at 12? That's too early.

Out on floor by 15
book somewhere between 12 and 10
captains between 6 and 4
U goes over to table at 1 to collect ball and give to R (in games without intros and National Anthem)
Says who?
Except for your comment "out on the floor by 15"; everything else falls under the heading "check your local listing". There is no absolute...it varies by area/state/board etc. You conduct your pre-game duties in the order and at the times, and in the manner that your local governing body or board has instructed you.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 10:35pm
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Captains at 12? That's too early.
Nope. It's 2.5 minutes too late.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 12:10am
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T to the team... does that include an indirect to the coach and he sits the whole game?
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No.
jdw is right.

One of the best tables in the book is on page 71 (from the 2008-2009 rules book, we didn't get new ones this year... but that's a different thread) -- Technical-Foul Penalty Summary.

It will answer all your questions as to whether or not the technical foul is charged directly or indirectly to the head coach.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 12:19am
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I always do catains at 12. too many teams go back into their lockerroom and then we get caught short for time pregame.
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I always do catains at 12. too many teams go back into their lockerroom and then we get caught short for time pregame.
How much time do you need?
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 08:12am
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How much time do you need?
I'm starting to do captains at 12:00 or 13:00 as well. It's not about how much time I need, it's about getting it out of the way while both teams are available. No team I've seen goes back in the locker room then. Besides, once I'm done the kids still have time to warm up. Which is what they want to be doing anyway.
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I'm starting to do captains at 12:00 or 13:00 as well. It's not about how much time I need, it's about getting it out of the way while both teams are available. No team I've seen goes back in the locker room then. Besides, once I'm done the kids still have time to warm up. Which is what they want to be doing anyway.
Oh I get that, I was just responding to ignats statement about being short on time for the meeting.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 08:27am
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Oh I get that, I was just responding to ignats statement about being short on time for the meeting.
I took his comment to mean that by the time you get both teams back out on the floor, including the HC who often doesn't come back out at the same time as the team, sometimes it's too late to get the meeting in. But perhaps Ignats' C/C meeting is just really really long?
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I took his comment to mean that by the time you get both teams back out on the floor, including the HC who often doesn't come back out at the same time as the team, sometimes it's too late to get the meeting in. But perhaps Ignats' C/C meeting is just really really long?
You mean like this?

"We'll call you blue and you white. Play the black line all around. Keep your hands off and stop at the whistle. Make sure you get out of the lane as 3-seconds is a point of emphasis. Remember to have......."

and I can't remember the rest cause the captains and I have all fallen asleep by this point.

The point of doing captains at 12 is so I can be at the table by 11 to make sure the book is ready.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 10:22am
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I always do catains at 12. too many teams go back into their lockerroom and then we get caught short for time pregame.
Last night one of the teams went back to the locker room before the 12:00 minute mark. I went to the table at 10:00 and official scorekeeper (neutral site) informs me the visiting team didn't mark its starters. No problem; ask coach to supply starters and he does so right away. Go back to my pre-game position. At around the 2:30 mark one of my partners reminds me we haven't done the captains yet. Sh!t, I had forgot all about that. Grab the captains real quick. Luckily my captains meetings only last about 20 seconds, including all the hand-shaking/fist pounding.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 10:28am
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I always do catains at 12. too many teams go back into their lockerroom and then we get caught short for time pregame.
Wow, I need to get out more. No team I've ever officiated went back into the locker-room after coming out onto the court around 15 minutes to go. I've never seen that done in this area, only in college games have I seen it done. So I see why some may do captains at 12 minutes. Here, once teams are out on the court, they pretty much stay out there so we can do captains whenever.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 10:42am
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Wow, I need to get out more. No team I've ever officiated went back into the locker-room after coming out onto the court around 15 minutes to go. I've never seen that done in this area, only in college games have I seen it done. So I see why some may do captains at 12 minutes. Here, once teams are out on the court, they pretty much stay out there so we can do captains whenever.
Just about all the teams here go in. If both teams go in, we'll go in a side hall and stretch -- no reason to stand and observe an empty court.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:09am
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Captains at 12? That's too early.

Out on floor by 15
book somewhere between 12 and 10
captains between 6 and 4
U goes over to table at 1 to collect ball and give to R (in games without intros and National Anthem)
Maybe in your state, but not mine.

We have to be out at 20 minutes. Captains at 12, table after, meet coaches at 1:30, anthem, introductions, go.
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