T to Start the Game

[Rich]

We do the captain's meeting at 12 and then the R heads to the table.

If the book isn't ready, I talk to the timer. If the timer isn't there, I'll grab the ball and take my traditional 3 pounds of air out of it. If the ball isn't there, I'll test the AP arrow. If the AP arrow isn't there (don't laugh -- I worked a juco game without one), I go back and tell my partner so we can have a bit of a laugh. I'll go back in a few minutes.

I take the rules seriously, but we simply do not have problems with this. 1 game in 25 might have the situation where the book isn't ready.

[jimmpaull]

The advise that you have been given regarding 10.1.1 is correct. To avoid this situation, you could have sent a team rep to the locker room to either have the coach report to the scorer's table or to have the coach tell them who the designated starters were. If the official scorer was familiar with the home team, you could have asked him/her to indicate in the book who the starters were These are not perfect solutions, however they could have helped to prevent the "tech". May I ask why you would have a problem starting the game with the "tech"? It's just another rule. Consider, if you saw an obvious travel, block/charge ete, I'm sure that you would have no problem making that call. Treat this obvious administrative "tech" the same way. Once the coach has earned this tech, I'll guarantee that he won't let it happen again which will make it easier for you and/or any others who work his games in the future.

[Hugh Refner]

Originally Posted by jimmpaull

Once the coach has earned this tech, I'll guarantee that he won't let it happen again.....

You're kidding, right?

[representing]

T to the team... does that include an indirect to the coach and he sits the whole game?

[representing]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

We do the captain's meeting at 12 and then the R heads to the table.

If the book isn't ready, I talk to the timer. If the timer isn't there, I'll grab the ball and take my traditional 3 pounds of air out of it. If the ball isn't there, I'll test the AP arrow. If the AP arrow isn't there (don't laugh -- I worked a juco game without one), I go back and tell my partner so we can have a bit of a laugh. I'll go back in a few minutes.

I take the rules seriously, but we simply do not have problems with this. 1 game in 25 might have the situation where the book isn't ready.

Captains at 12? That's too early.

Out on floor by 15
book somewhere between 12 and 10
captains between 6 and 4
U goes over to table at 1 to collect ball and give to R (in games without intros and National Anthem)

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by representing

T to the team... does that include an indirect to the coach and he sits the whole game?

No.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by representing

Captains at 12? That's too early.

Out on floor by 15
book somewhere between 12 and 10
captains between 6 and 4
U goes over to table at 1 to collect ball and give to R (in games without intros and National Anthem)

Says who?
Except for your comment "out on the floor by 15"; everything else falls under the heading "check your local listing". There is no absolute...it varies by area/state/board etc. You conduct your pre-game duties in the order and at the times, and in the manner that your local governing body or board has instructed you.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by representing

Captains at 12? That's too early.

Nope. It's 2.5 minutes too late.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by representing

T to the team... does that include an indirect to the coach and he sits the whole game?

Originally Posted by jdw3018

No.

jdw is right.

One of the best tables in the book is on page 71 (from the 2008-2009 rules book, we didn't get new ones this year... but that's a different thread) -- Technical-Foul Penalty Summary.

It will answer all your questions as to whether or not the technical foul is charged directly or indirectly to the head coach.

[Ignats75]

I always do catains at 12. too many teams go back into their lockerroom and then we get caught short for time pregame.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by representing

Captains at 12? That's too early.

Out on floor by 15
book somewhere between 12 and 10
captains between 6 and 4
U goes over to table at 1 to collect ball and give to R (in games without intros and National Anthem)

Maybe in your state, but not mine.

We have to be out at 20 minutes. Captains at 12, table after, meet coaches at 1:30, anthem, introductions, go.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

I always do catains at 12. too many teams go back into their lockerroom and then we get caught short for time pregame.

How much time do you need?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How much time do you need?

I'm starting to do captains at 12:00 or 13:00 as well. It's not about how much time I need, it's about getting it out of the way while both teams are available. No team I've seen goes back in the locker room then. Besides, once I'm done the kids still have time to warm up. Which is what they want to be doing anyway.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I'm starting to do captains at 12:00 or 13:00 as well. It's not about how much time I need, it's about getting it out of the way while both teams are available. No team I've seen goes back in the locker room then. Besides, once I'm done the kids still have time to warm up. Which is what they want to be doing anyway.

Oh I get that, I was just responding to ignats statement about being short on time for the meeting.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Oh I get that, I was just responding to ignats statement about being short on time for the meeting.

I took his comment to mean that by the time you get both teams back out on the floor, including the HC who often doesn't come back out at the same time as the team, sometimes it's too late to get the meeting in. But perhaps Ignats' C/C meeting is just really really long?