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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 03:09pm
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I would have got the starters when I verified the book with the coach.

If I would have went this route, I wouldn't make any signal. Just make sure everything is recorded correctly in the book, made sure the coaches knew what was going on - get the shooter(s), shoot the throws, and start the game.
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Even if it was at the 7 minute mark?
Verifying the book with the coach isn't universal practice. Here, we're a little relaxed on the book stuff for JV games. We don't make a practice of stopping the clock to ensure everything is good, we just don't worry about it. And in this case, not having the starters noted wouldn't have been noticed, honestly.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 03:11pm
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Verifying the book with the coach isn't universal practice. Here, we're a little relaxed on the book stuff for JV games. We don't make a practice of stopping the clock to ensure everything is good, we just don't worry about it. And in this case, not having the starters noted wouldn't have been noticed, honestly.
True, and I understand that.... check local listings.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 03:17pm
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Well heck.....
I had the scorekeeper enter the starters into the book when they were getting ready for the opening tip. I had the game delayed for a moment or two untill the scorer was ready. No problem, no Technical foul. It was a subvarsity game.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 03:23pm
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Exactly. We'll check the book around 12, gives us time to get it added if it's not there yet. If the coach isn't out there yet, we'll head back across court and wait for both teams to warm up for a bit, grab the captains, and then send the R back to the table.

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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 03:58pm
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It varies from area to area. Many times when doing a Jv/V double header we don't even have 10 minutes between games.

Playoffs- different situation all together. Penalize accordingly.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 08:19pm
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T to the team... does that include an indirect to the coach and he sits the whole game?
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 09:11pm
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T to the team... does that include an indirect to the coach and he sits the whole game?
No.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:01pm
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We do the captain's meeting at 12 and then the R heads to the table.

If the book isn't ready, I talk to the timer. If the timer isn't there, I'll grab the ball and take my traditional 3 pounds of air out of it. If the ball isn't there, I'll test the AP arrow. If the AP arrow isn't there (don't laugh -- I worked a juco game without one), I go back and tell my partner so we can have a bit of a laugh. I'll go back in a few minutes.

I take the rules seriously, but we simply do not have problems with this. 1 game in 25 might have the situation where the book isn't ready.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 08:21pm
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We do the captain's meeting at 12 and then the R heads to the table.

If the book isn't ready, I talk to the timer. If the timer isn't there, I'll grab the ball and take my traditional 3 pounds of air out of it. If the ball isn't there, I'll test the AP arrow. If the AP arrow isn't there (don't laugh -- I worked a juco game without one), I go back and tell my partner so we can have a bit of a laugh. I'll go back in a few minutes.

I take the rules seriously, but we simply do not have problems with this. 1 game in 25 might have the situation where the book isn't ready.
Captains at 12? That's too early.

Out on floor by 15
book somewhere between 12 and 10
captains between 6 and 4
U goes over to table at 1 to collect ball and give to R (in games without intros and National Anthem)
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 10:04pm
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Captains at 12? That's too early.

Out on floor by 15
book somewhere between 12 and 10
captains between 6 and 4
U goes over to table at 1 to collect ball and give to R (in games without intros and National Anthem)
Says who?
Except for your comment "out on the floor by 15"; everything else falls under the heading "check your local listing". There is no absolute...it varies by area/state/board etc. You conduct your pre-game duties in the order and at the times, and in the manner that your local governing body or board has instructed you.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 10:35pm
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Captains at 12? That's too early.
Nope. It's 2.5 minutes too late.
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I always do catains at 12. too many teams go back into their lockerroom and then we get caught short for time pregame.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:09am
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Captains at 12? That's too early.

Out on floor by 15
book somewhere between 12 and 10
captains between 6 and 4
U goes over to table at 1 to collect ball and give to R (in games without intros and National Anthem)
Maybe in your state, but not mine.

We have to be out at 20 minutes. Captains at 12, table after, meet coaches at 1:30, anthem, introductions, go.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 03:14pm
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Verifying the book with the coach isn't universal practice. Here, we're a little relaxed on the book stuff for JV games. We don't make a practice of stopping the clock to ensure everything is good, we just don't worry about it. And in this case, not having the starters noted wouldn't have been noticed, honestly.
We don't stop the clock here either. We walk over at 10:00 minute mark and look at official book. The info is in there, or it isn't. If the scorer is inputting info at that time we assume that they had the info before we came over at 10 minutes. Now, if we see coaches trying to make changes after that time it's a different story. Also - we are a bit relaxed if school shows up late due to weather or bus problem. Then we ask that the coach get the information to the scorer asap.
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