No T, no credibility?

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by lmeadski

What do you all think are the consequences for NOT giving a T when a coach crosses the line? I coached for a number of years before reffing (this is my 3rd year doing varsity, 5th overall). I have been slow to give Ts, giving the coaches much rope. Do you feel the coaches lose respect for refs that don't whack them when appropriate? Or, do they appreciate a ref that is willing to listen and be patient with them when they blow a gasket? I used to think it was the latter, now I am beginning to question that.

As a former coach myself, I tend to give more leeway to coaches than players. But, when a coach does cross the line, the only way an official loses the coach's respect is if he thinks the official is indecisive or timid.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by lmeadski

Do you feel the coaches lose respect for refs that don't whack them when the coach believes it is / the ref believes it is appropriate?

Yes
No

There is a "pecking order" in everything we do. On the court, you have control of the coach. In the AD's office, coach probably has control of your game assignments. You have to manage both situations.

It sounds like you have a good grasp of where the line is. If that is true and you are a good difuser, I think you have a better chance by being patient. I am guessing that you haven't passed on too many T's where the coach was clearly across the line.

I know this is not what you are saying but the idea of using T's to get coach's respect is a dangerous path that leads nowhere. The respect comes from somewhere else.

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by lmeadski

What do you all think are the consequences for NOT giving a T when a coach crosses the line? I coached for a number of years before reffing (this is my 3rd year doing varsity, 5th overall). I have been slow to give Ts, giving the coaches much rope. Do you feel the coaches lose respect for refs that don't whack them when appropriate? Or, do they appreciate a ref that is willing to listen and be patient with them when they blow a gasket? I used to think it was the latter, now I am beginning to question that.

If you don't give a Tee when it's earned you make it tougher for the next crew that works a game involving that team. We all have different "levels of tolerance" and I can't tell you when a Tee is warranted. I just "know" when to do it. This is something you have to figure out for yourself.

Frankly doing varsity games (I'm assuming High school) after 2 years reffing would be tough to achieve where I work, Coaching and reffing are mutally exclusive. Get rid of that Coaching attitude. You're an official and not a coach