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Refk · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 21, 2009, 09:47am

Helping out fellow official working youth tournament (6th grade girls). Coach complaining to my partner off and on all first half,,, hasn't said anything to me. Starting second half coach is in my partner's ear again and my partner asks " please get back in your coach's box " and the response is a loud "NO I won't ". My partner (first year official ) hesitates ............. looks at me (I'm giving the nod to get him) and he finally gives him the T. My question is ... If he passed on this I was going to give the T ....... Would I have been out of line ?

Thanks

Ignats75 · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 21, 2009, 09:51am

I think you handled it right. Coming in like the rookie's big brother would just impair his development and probably hurt his reputation. Congrats. You handled it right. If he passes on a T there, I would talk to him at the next time out that under anyone's rules, that "howler monkey" needed to be whacked.

Adam · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 21, 2009, 09:54am

He was working your partner because he knew that he was new. I'm not sure how much damage you would have done by getting this one if your partner didn't do it. Sometimes, newer guys need a bit of help, and this would be such a time, IMO.

Give him a chance to get it, but take care of it if he won't and talk to him later about it.

grunewar · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 21, 2009, 10:13am

That would have been a good opportunity to chat about what needed to be done if it occurred the second half.

That being said, I agree with Snaqs:

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Give him a chance to get it, but take care of it if he won't and talk to him later about it.

The first T is the most difficult. So, stepping in to show him how it should be done, may help too.

I had a Sr. V official tell me I should have "whacked" a player the other night. He was right. I try to avoid them, but in this case, I shouldn't have. Live and learn.

BillyMac · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 21, 2009, 08:17pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar

The first T is the most difficult.

No it wasn't. It was as easy as pie. It was so easy that I gave out a lot more. Of course, back then, new officials were often assigned boys recreation games, or mens league games, and you all know what those games can be like. The technical foul may have been my most frequent call.

Ignats75 · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 21, 2009, 10:13am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

He was working your partner because he knew that he was new. I'm not sure how much damage you would have done by getting this one if your partner didn't do it. Sometimes, newer guys need a bit of help, and this would be such a time, IMO.

Give him a chance to get it, but take care of it if he won't and talk to him later about it.

I would chalk this up to HTBT. I don't know if I would want to come flying all the way across the floor to take care of business. If I was bench side at half court, I might step in.

Adam · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 21, 2009, 10:48am

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Originally Posted by Ignats75

I would chalk this up to HTBT. I don't know if I would want to come flying all the way across the floor to take care of business. If I was bench side at half court, I might step in.

I'd be far more inclined to do this for a first year official struggling to realize what's acceptable and what's not than for a 5th year guy who truly needs to find his whistle.

Coach has already shown he doesn't respect your partner, so it's time to force the behavior to change. If I have to take care of the benches myself so my partner can focus on the court, no biggie.

Jimmie24 · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 21, 2009, 10:58am

I agree with Snaq.

I would've made my way over in the first half and asked the coach to back off the rookie. Let him know that was enough. Talk about it at half time letting the rook know that it is okay to sit the coach down. If he doesn't then it is your turn.