Team control foul

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by tjones1

You were correct...should have been shooting free throws.

Now, sit down, coach, and make your offensive call.

[cmhjordan23]

Rule 4-12. Team control does not exist during dead ball, throw in, or jump ball. Therefore free throws should have been shot. Now if there was a foul off the ball while two teamates on the court were passing, no shots. A team has control of ball when being passed among teammates.

[tjones1]

.... and 4-12-4

While the ball remains live a loose ball always remains in control of the team whose player last had control, unless it is a try or tap for goal.

[Upward ref]

Originally Posted by tjones1

.... and 4-12-4

While the ball remains live a loose ball always remains in control of the team whose player last had control, unless it is a try or tap for goal.

but not the case for this OP and a throw in , correct ? ball is not live , and no team control yet.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Upward ref

but not the case for this OP and a throw in , correct ? ball is not live , and no team control yet.

Once the ball has been handed to the thrower, the ball is live. But that is not necessarily relevant to a Team Control Foul being called. You can only have Team Control once team control has been established. The ball being in the air after the release of the ball is not team control yet. A player from one of the teams has to grab the ball first.

Peace

[Upward ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Once the ball has been handed to the thrower, the ball is live. But that is not necessarily relevant to a Team Control Foul being called. You can only have Team Control once team control has been established. The ball being in the air after the release of the ball is not team control yet. A player from one of the teams has to grab the ball first.

Peace

i'll settle for half right ! don't worry i'm going straight to my rule books after this ; a live ball and the clock not running ?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Upward ref

i'll settle for half right ! don't worry i'm going straight to my rule books after this ; a live ball and the clock not running ?

Whether the clock is running or not has no effect on whether the ball is live. For example:

The ball is tossed by the referee to start the game. The ball is live, the clock does not start until the ball is legally touched.

A shot is in the air when a foul is whistled. The ball is live, the clock stopped when the whistle was blown.

After a timeout, A1 has the ball for a throw-in. The ball is live, the clock does not start until the ball is legally touched after it's been released by the thrower.

A shot is in the air when the horn sounds. The ball is live, the clock stopped when the horn sounded.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Upward ref

i'll settle for half right ! don't worry i'm going straight to my rule books after this ; a live ball and the clock not running ?

Along with BktBallRef's list, there are free throws. Live ball, clock not running. Happens all the time.

You can also have a dead ball with the clock running.