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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 12:56am
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1. If he fell to the floor after he grabbed the ball, he traveled.
2. If the timeout was requested prior to the opponent getting his hands on the ball, you did the right thing by granting the TO; even if, as jar states, the mechanics were a little shaky.
3. I don't care who the timer is, he's not going to ridicule me during the game. He would be replaced.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 01:13am
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3. I don't care who the timer is, he's not going to ridicule me during the game. He would be replaced.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 12:40pm
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3. I don't care who the timer is, he's not going to ridicule me during the game. He would be replaced.
To me, it all depends on what the ridicule was...
Though I agree in principle, the stuation warrants some "game management" thought.
5 seconds left in an 8th grade game, and you suggest taking the time to replace a timer?
Maybe a better option is to walk over during the dead ball and have a CLEAR conversation with him about "table" manners, then move on....he's embarrassed, hopefully learning the same lesson as being removed, and the game ends in a timely way.......if earlier in the game? well thats different.

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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 05:55pm
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Why not? If a player has possession and touches the floor inbounds with any part of the body other than a hand or foot, it's a travel. This is where you should have blown the whistle and called the travel.
To be honest, that competely slipped my mind, but that is good to hear. When I replay the situation in my head, it was clearly a travel.

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As my esteemed colleague points out, from your description this indeed may have been a travel. But if it was not, sounds perfectly all right to me. You say you called held ball, but apparently you mean you signaled held ball, but then granted the timeout instead because in your judgment it occurred first. A mechanical mistake to be sure, but better to get the call right. A signal alone means nothing.
Thank you for that input, makes me feel a little better about what I did, minus the whole missing the 100% travel.

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1. If he fell to the floor after he grabbed the ball, he traveled.
2. If the timeout was requested prior to the opponent getting his hands on the ball, you did the right thing by granting the TO; even if, as jar states, the mechanics were a little shaky.
3. I don't care who the timer is, he's not going to ridicule me during the game. He would be replaced.
Again, on the basis of missing the clear travel call, thank you. (Thinking there was no travel to begin with) I am glad I would have done the right thing, just missed the mechanics.

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1. With regard to the held ball...you ultimately got it right. The mechanics will improve in time. Don't beat yourself up over that.
2. what they said about the travel...if you called that, the time out/held ball thing is irrelevant.
3. The fact that it's gnawing at you is a good sign. Your desire to make the correct call is admirable. You'll get that play right next time.
4. As your confidence in your calls increase, you'll tell the coach to stuff it because a)he is biased because he's a coach and ...b) If he's at the table, he shouldn't be expressing his opinion.

Good luck the rest of the way.
Thanks, it was bothering me for a few days but I feel like if I were put in a similar situation, I will do a better job next time around.
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