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Old Fri Dec 18, 2009, 05:41pm
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Your world ain't the only world. The few people I've worked with that pat the head always mean to communicate that the clock is under a minute. Who actually has the last shot is discussed in pregame.
That's why I said my. How do you signal who has last shot on your planet?
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2009, 05:54pm
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huh?

the trail or the C if he/she is across from the table. This is, as was said earlier, discussed in the pregame, not with 1:01 to go
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 12:27am
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That's why I said my. How do you signal who has last shot on your planet?
For 2-man mechanics, it is usually discussed in pregame who will take the last shot. A lot depends on clock locations, if there aren't 2 clocks. If there are 2 clocks the trail has it always. We signal pointing a finger in the air to indicate we're under 1 minute in both 2-man and 3-man. In 3-man we'll generally all communicate who has the last shot (C or T opposite table) when the clock is under a minute and make sure we all know who has it by pointing to the one who has it and the one who has it will pat their chest. Usually.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 01:51am
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1) you've gotta pre-game last shot, because if you just rely on the chest or head pat signal, then there's gonna be a quick steal and fast break just after said pat, and neither of you is gonna know who's supposed to watch off ball. (This really happened to me just this evening! Fortunately, the fast break was late enough that the ball never got up on a shot, but still...)

2) Mark, I WAS hurt, you dork!

3) My pet peeve signal?? It was new to me this year, it's the "safe" signal, from baseball, but partner used it to mean "no foul". After the second safe signal that she gave while I was actually blowing the whistle for a foul, I went to her and said, "Please don't do that again!!" She said, "Oh, everyone around here uses the safe signal". Which was news to me, since I've been working "around here" for 11 years, and I've never seen it before, and can't imagine anyone thinking it's a good idea. And she was clueless why it bothered me! Oh, well.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 09:47am
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. . . the "safe" signal . . . .


Was that during a play along the "baseline"
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 10:19am
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Indicating with two fingers that the goal is for 2 points (not for 3). If the official does not go up with two arms for a 3 point signal, then it is a 2 (generally speaking). I can see why this may be used for emphasis occasionally, but it is becoming common place on every outside shot with many partners I work with.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 12:47pm
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I can see why this may be used for emphasis occasionally.
That's the only time I use it, usually when the shooter has a foot touching the three point line.

We have a Connecticut only mechanic to point to floor for two-point field goal try when shooter has foot touching three point line. As the trail, when this occurs in my area, if the ball goes in, I follow up with the two fingers and also state, "Two".

Of course, I'm experienced enough to remember when the trail had to indicate one, or two (no three back then) for every point. It was a hard habit to break when we switched to no point signals, except for a made three. Note that I said experienced, not old. I started officiating when I was three years old. Really.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 10:15am
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I'll go with Snaq with the tip signal on a block shot. But other times I think it's good to communicate the tip signal (a ball slightly deflected by the defense that goes into the backcourt).

I used to get worked up about signals that weren't 'by the book' but after awhile I realize we're just communicating. If a coach is yelling for a travel when there is no control I might use a small 'bobble' signal. That said, do I look like a Solid Gold dancer out there, heck no. I would say 95% of my signals are by the book.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 09:53pm
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2) Mark, I WAS hurt, you dork!
he he he he ha ha giggle ha ha haw haw . . . lmao

Juulie called Mark a dork.

Wait a sec. I don't think that is the first time she has done that!
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he he he he ha ha giggle ha ha haw haw . . . lmao

Juulie called Mark a dork.

Wait a sec. I don't think that is the first time she has done that!
In Oregon, "dork" is a compliment.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 11:11pm
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In Oregon, "dork" is a compliment.
Coming from an area where pronouncing 'r's is optional, I suppose it is pretty close to 'duck'.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 11:45pm
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I have not read all 108 posts but, my pet peeve signal is when the official swings his/her arm and points to the floor to indicate 'foul on the floor'. It can appear to be that the official is counting a shot that goes through the basket.
Why not just use the 'No Shot' mechanic?
I also do not like the 'Aligator clap' to indicate blocked shot. Geez
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 11:57pm
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In Oregon, "dork" is a compliment.

No . . . "Big Dork" is a compliment!
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 05:06pm
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For 2-man mechanics, it is usually discussed in pregame who will take the last shot. A lot depends on clock locations, if there aren't 2 clocks.

Why? You should be listening for the horn, not watching the clock. It shouldn't matter where the clocks are located (or even if there is no clock at all).
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 06:55pm
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Why? You should be listening for the horn, not watching the clock. It shouldn't matter where the clocks are located (or even if there is no clock at all).
Because the person who is facing the clock is able to see when the clock is getting close to zero. Think about it. If you have a clock only on one end of the gym and you haven't switched in a couple minutes, you may only be getting very quick looks occasionally during transition. Of course we listen for the horn, but if you aren't aware of the time left, you can be surprised by the horn, and that's never good.
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