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zebraman Mon Dec 28, 2009 02:31am

What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going? :rolleyes:

Chess Ref Mon Dec 28, 2009 08:00am

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Originally Posted by zebraman (Post 646333)
What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going? :rolleyes:

It's to help the coaches keep track.:rolleyes:

Raymond Mon Dec 28, 2009 09:22am

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Originally Posted by zebraman (Post 646333)
What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going? :rolleyes:

Maybe it's the beginning of their 10-second count.

fullor30 Mon Dec 28, 2009 09:31am

How about the C (or trail in two man) keeping his arm extended signalling number of shots for free throws. After we hopefully communicated verbally and a quick signal, that should be sufficient.

Addendum......have seen leads do it also.

Gargil Mon Dec 28, 2009 09:38am

What about "over the back" when the official pumps both hands like he is reaching over someone's shoulders??

Jurassic Referee Mon Dec 28, 2009 09:39am

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Originally Posted by zebraman (Post 646333)
What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going? :rolleyes:

I see that one usually after there's a fair amount of contact before the defensive team gets the rebound. I think the idea is that it supposed to show that nobody gained any advantage with the contact and just keep on a-playing. Iow it's basically a message being sent to the other team's coach and maybe to some players on the floor who might want to complain about being fouled. Nothing there...let's move on.

That's my take on it anyhow......

fullor30 Mon Dec 28, 2009 09:47am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 646372)
I see that one usually after there's a fair amount of contact before the defensive team gets the rebound. I think the idea is that it supposed to show that nobody gained any advantage with the contact and just keep on a-playing. Iow it's basically a message being sent to the other team's coach and maybe to some players on the floor who might want to complain about being fouled. Nothing there...let's move on.

That's my take on it anyhow......

I believe I've heard that also.

grunewar Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:29am

Do as I say, not as I do.....
 
A pet peeve of mine is when sr offiicals, trainers, mentors tell me to do one thing and then either they go out and do the opposite or allow their partners to do it.

Examples - Tweet, tweet, tweet - "Only blow the whistle once;" "You used a team control vice player control foul signal;" reporting to the table using two hands vs Fed one hand; hustling on the court; uniform - shiny shoes, allowing a player to play with a sleeve, not doing a good pre-game, joking or talking too much with with coaches, "When there's a crash, you always must call something;" rarely calling a charge; etc.

I try to be by the book, learn from my mistakes, take what others say and process it - and use what's best. But, don't gig me and then do whatever it is you want to do......

My $.02 and off my soap box.

Rich Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:33am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 646372)
I see that one usually after there's a fair amount of contact before the defensive team gets the rebound. I think the idea is that it supposed to show that nobody gained any advantage with the contact and just keep on a-playing. Iow it's basically a message being sent to the other team's coach and maybe to some players on the floor who might want to complain about being fouled. Nothing there...let's move on.

That's my take on it anyhow......

Or it's a signal to reset the shot clock. :D

fullor30 Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:34am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 646377)
A pet peeve of mine is when sr offiicals, trainers, mentors tell me to do one thing and then either they go out and do the opposite or allow their partners to do it.

Examples - Tweet, tweet, tweet - "Only blow the whistle once;" "You used a team control vice player control foul signal;" reporting to the table using two hands vs Fed one hand; hustling on the court; uniform - shiny shoes, allowing a player to play with a sleeve, not doing a good pre-game, joking or talking too much with with coaches, "When there's a crash, you always must call something;" rarely calling a charge; etc.

I try to be by the book, learn from my mistakes, take what others say and process it - and use what's best. But, don't gig me and then do whatever it is you want to do......

My $.02 and off my soap box.

We have an assignor here who uses the cliche, do as I say, not as I do. I can appreciate that. As you mentioned, just process the comments and apply it to your game.

Forgot the multiple whistle toots..........:(

j51969 Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:51am

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 645564)
Here are my signal peeves... he's got some good ones though. :D

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His mullet is awesome!

Adam Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:29am

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Originally Posted by j51969 (Post 646387)
His mullet is awesome!

Now this sentence is a model of redundancy. M&M would be proud.

j51969 Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:55am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 646395)
Now this sentence is a model of redundancy. M&M would be proud.

I don't get it? You guys need a for dummies manual for the inside stuff, and sarcasm.

bob jenkins Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:29pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 646279)
Ok, not a mechanic, but what's the deal with the thumbs up somewhat and pinky fingers stuck out as you're running down court. Seems germane to D111 women's officials. Almost like a hook 'em horns but vertical.

Anybody?

Could be "we're in the bonus."

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 646368)
How about the C (or trail in two man) keeping his arm extended signalling number of shots for free throws. After we hopefully communicated verbally and a quick signal, that should be sufficient.

Addendum......have seen leads do it also.

Lead shouldn't do it, but C needs to communicate with the table after s/he communicates with the L. It shouldn't be held throughout the entire FT, though.

26 Year Gap Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:29pm

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Originally Posted by j51969 (Post 646406)
I don't get it? You guys need a for dummies manual for the inside stuff, and sarcasm.

Maybe someday, a guy like Billy Mac will create a guide to long time posters.


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