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26 Year Gap Sat Dec 26, 2009 04:25pm
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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 645967)
A Consensus of Non-Fed Signal Pet Peeves
Universal (or nearly so) to Everyone’s Area, Region, Planet, and Universe

1. Upward circling finger when free throw fails to hit the rim
2. Blocking foul signal that looks like the chicken dance
3. Over-the-back signal that looks like Superman flying
4. Timeout signal using a T motion
5. Brushing of palms together to indicate a clean blocked shot
6. Reporting numbers to table with two hands
7. No stop/start clock with raised open hand
8. Directional point angled toward the sky
9. Choppy, short visible counts
10. Double personal foul signal to report a full timeout
11. Thirty second timeout signal pointing thumbs to shoulders with pinkies out
12. Hammering the fists on hips for a blocking foul
13. Travel signal for a throw-in designated spot violation
14. Lazy little fist bump to start the clock
15. Running hand up and down the line to indicate out-of-bounds violation
16. Safe signal to communicate no foul
17. Commonly indicating with two fingers that the goal is for two points, not three
18. Pointing “on the floor” to indicate the player has not started his shooting motion
19. Inbounding and covering side of mouth like coughing when blowing whistle
20. Frankenstein Creeping Death/Zombie/Count Dracula signal for “over the back”
which is made worse if the words "Over the back" are used while reporting.

Cobra Sun Dec 27, 2009 03:26am
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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 645967)
17. Commonly indicating with two fingers that the goal is for two points, not three
I once worked with a guy who would give the goal counts signal after virtually every goal.

ripcord51 Sun Dec 27, 2009 08:57am
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Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 646124)
I once worked with a guy who would give the goal counts signal after virtually every goal.
I worked with that same guy and what bugged me even more was when he signaled the two it was as if he was celebrating with the player acting like he was part of the accomplishment stopping short of high fiving the player at the same time signaling two over to the table.

ripcord51 Sun Dec 27, 2009 09:12am
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Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 646124)
I once worked with a guy who would give the goal counts signal after virtually every goal.

I think why every new ref to the game thinks this is so important is because if you watch a Hollywood movie about basketball that includes a basketball official they do this constantly. And act like it is their most important responsibility. See Billy Crystal in Forget Paris or Space Jam.

chseagle Sun Dec 27, 2009 09:15am
Shot-clock violation signal
 
I actually saw an official signal a shot-clock violation by patting both his head & stomach at the same time

fullor30 Sun Dec 27, 2009 09:38am
Pretend like your interested
 
Holiday tournies are special in the Chicago area with many great venues and teams. I reffed in a few so far and watched a few. The other day at a morning game the crew looked like they were in the elephants graveyard, where old, tired bulls go to die. Pet peeve of the day was no mechanics, beckoning of subs consisted of a tired, small finger wave to bring them in as if it was an annoyance to him that he had to do it. They were totally bored, I've seen better interest at a third grade park district game.

Day after Christmas so maybe the all had too much turkey.:(

Rich Sun Dec 27, 2009 09:50am
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 646145)
Holiday tournies are special in the Chicago area with many great venues and teams. I reffed in a few so far and watched a few. The other day at a morning game the crew looked like they were in the elephants graveyard, where old, tired bulls go to die. Pet peeve of the day was no mechanics, beckoning of subs consisted of a tired, small finger wave to bring them in as if it was an annoyance to him that he had to do it. They were totally bored, I've seem better interest at a third grade park district game.

Day after Christmas so maybe the all had too much turkey.:(
I used to license in Illinois and come down and work some holiday games. We'd always do a morning game at one venue and an afternoon/evening game on the way home. I'll admit, it's hard to get the motor going for a 10AM game. But I know the crews you're talking about -- guys that you'd really worry about if one of the three officials went down with an injury.

BillyMac Sun Dec 27, 2009 01:01pm
Numb3rs Days May Be Numbered ...
 
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Originally Posted by ripcord51 (Post 646143)
A Hollywood movie about basketball that includes a basketball official.
Watched a "Numb3rs" episode, on CBS, Friday night, that made me want to puke all over the television. Home team is wearing red. Visitors are wearing light blue. Players on both teams are wearing white undershirts. Official calls a technical foul on the "CalSci" coach, but doesn't award free throws. "CalSci" coach wears a whistle during the game. Producers spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on each episode. Why can't they spend a few bucks on a real official to check out the basketball scenes? I should send them my resume.

26 Year Gap Sun Dec 27, 2009 09:16pm
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Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 646124)
I once worked with a guy who would give the goal counts signal after virtually every goal.
That USED to be the mechanic. When I officiated in the 70s you always signaled the number of points to the table. One of the things I had to UNlearn when I got back into officiating after a number of years off.

Adam Sun Dec 27, 2009 09:21pm
Keep moving people, there's no shark here
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 646169)
Watched a "Numb3rs" episode, on CBS, Friday night, that made me want to puke all over the television. Home team is wearing red. Visitors are wearing light blue. Players on both teams are wearing white undershirts. Official calls a technical foul on the "CalSci" coach, but doesn't award free throws. "CalSci" coach wears a whistle during the game. Producers spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on each episode. Why can't they spend a few bucks on a real official to check out the basketball scenes? I should send them my resume.
There's so much to love about Numb3rs as a show; but their basketball scenes are not among them.

There are far more things wrong with it than just what you mention. They bring Jordan Farmar from the Lakers to help stop their losing streak; and nothing is ever mentioned about potential sanctions. The gym itself is far too small for a college gym; hardly any bleachers at all. I'm assuming they were filming in a practice gym at some UC school.

As much as I love the show, they may as well have put David Krumholtz on water skis.

Adam Sun Dec 27, 2009 09:23pm
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 646273)
That USED to be the mechanic. When I officiated in the 70s you always signaled the number of points to the table. One of the things I had to UNlearn when I got back into officiating after a number of years off.
I believe, but can't verify, that this was the signal in the early 90's when I got my start working middle school ball in a small college town in Iowa. We also did the whole "cadillac position" thing, too.

Mark Padgett Sun Dec 27, 2009 09:27pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 646276)
We also did the whole "cadillac position" thing, too.
You worked wearing fins? :confused:

http://www.caddyman.com.au/images/ma...t/car_fins.gif

fullor30 Sun Dec 27, 2009 09:33pm
Ok, not a mechanic, but what's the deal with the thumbs up somewhat and pinky fingers stuck out as you're running down court. Seems germane to D111 women's officials. Almost like a hook 'em horns but vertical.

Anybody?

26 Year Gap Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 646279)
Ok, not a mechanic, but what's the deal with the thumbs up somewhat and pinky fingers stuck out as you're running down court. Seems germane to D111 women's officials. Almost like a hook 'em horns but vertical.

Anybody?
Tea time. Usually used in the UK.

BillyMac Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:58pm
Like The Fonz ???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 646275)
As much as I love the show, they may as well have put David Krumholtz on water skis.
To jump the shark?


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