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26 Year Gap Thu Dec 24, 2009 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 645481)
I find the objection to the thumbs on a 30 interesting. Around here everybody uses the thumbs. But in the past couple of weeks I have begun using the proper mechanic for this (ironically I'm making the change as part of conscious effort to stop mixing mechanics from different levels). I'll tell you what, it just doesn't feel right. I need to try this in the mirror and see if it looks as awkward as it feels. If I can't make it look good, I'm gonna have to go back to the thumbs. :D

Basketball is a game of finesse....not for one who is all thumbs.

Back In The Saddle Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:52pm

That would be why I ref and no longer play. :p

Raymond Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:21am

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 645558)
You said that just so I could grit my teeth huh? I was watching a game the other night. A player gets the ball near the post on the other side of the paint from the lead. The kid makes an up-and-under move - tweet, and one - from the lead. [Grrrrrr] It wasn't a play that the C couldn't clearly see. I ask him about it after the game and he says, "It was right in front of me." So, I ask how it could be in front of him when the moved started outside the paint on the other side of the lane. He still says it was right in front of him even though it wasn't. He walks away and his partner tells me, "He was doing that the whole game." I will be discussing this with his crew chiefs, who happen to be my friends.


I called a foul in my first game of the year as Lead on a play that was on the other side of the basket from me. I saw a DVD of the game and I absolutely got the call wrong. It was a clean block (which I couldn't see from my position) and with a little bit of incidental contact down low. I learned my lesson for the season. :)

ripcord51 Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:07am

I still work with a dude who after every "jump ball" still feels it necessary to point and declare the numbers of the two opposing players that will be "jumping it up" He has even asked me for clarification to make sure he gets the two players correct. Then after all that proceeds to go to the arrow. Drives me crazy.

BillyMac Fri Dec 25, 2009 03:07pm

Wayback Machine Set To 1983 ...
 
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Originally Posted by ripcord51 (Post 645788)
I still work with a dude who after every "jump ball" still feels it necessary to point and declare the numbers of the two opposing players that will be "jumping it up".

That's because you want to be sure that the two players involved jump, rather than having a tall "ringer" switch with one of the "real" jumpers... Wait a minute... Never mind.

http://thm-a02.yimg.com/image/5c5d45d13a93e120

rwest Fri Dec 25, 2009 04:19pm

Couldn't agree more!
 
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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 643824)
The brushing of the palms together to indicate that it was a clean blocked shot. Grrrr.

I had this during a game. Lead made the "clean block shot" signal while the trail called a foul. I explained to the official why this is a bad mechanic. We now have two officials with two different calls. One has a foul, one has a blocked shot.

It's like two umpires in softball making a call at the same base, one safe and one out!

If you don't have a foul, then don't raise your fist! To me this is just an attempt to get everyone off your back for not making a call on a clean block.

Adam Fri Dec 25, 2009 04:47pm

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Originally Posted by rwest (Post 645841)
To me this is just an attempt to get everyone off your back for not making a call on a clean block.

That's exactly what it is.

Stat-Man Fri Dec 25, 2009 04:52pm

HS or lower officials using NBA signals.

A few years ago, I was at an 8th grade girls game where the official used the NBA "Loose Ball Foul" signal. I had to resist the urge to ask if that meant we also had defensive three seconds. :D

constable Fri Dec 25, 2009 06:27pm

I would like to see a signal for basket interference- the NBA has one.

Our association permits the 2 hand point. I don't have the IAABO book infront of me so I can't recall whether they do or not.

point with 2 fingers or a full hand, if that is the weakest part of an officials game I think they are doing just fine.

BillyMac Fri Dec 25, 2009 07:28pm

Oldie, But Goodie ...
 
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Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 645849)
The NBA "Loose Ball Foul" signal. I had to resist the urge to ask if that meant we also had defensive three seconds.

How about, "Three to make two."?

dsqrddgd909 Sat Dec 26, 2009 09:54am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 645867)
How about, "Three to make two."?

LOVED that rule. It didn't help Billy McGinnis though. Playoff game - missed all 3 and I think one was an air ball.

BillyMac Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:07am

These Are The Best ???
 
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Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 645946)
Loved that rule.

College players only get two to make two. High school players only get two to make two. Middle school players only get two to make two. Fourth graders only get two to make two. Why did some of the best basketball players in the world need three shots to make two? Rick Barry, Calvin Murphy, and Bill Sharman never needed three to make two.

Freddy Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:46am

Summary of PET PEEVES (from previous post)
 
A Consensus of Non-Fed Signal Pet Peeves
Universal (or nearly so) to Everyone’s Area, Region, Planet, and Universe

1. Upward circling finger when free throw fails to hit the rim
2. Blocking foul signal that looks like the chicken dance
3. Over-the-back signal that looks like Superman flying
4. Timeout signal using a T motion
5. Brushing of palms together to indicate a clean blocked shot
6. Reporting numbers to table with two hands
7. No stop/start clock with raised open hand
8. Directional point angled toward the sky
9. Choppy, short visible counts
10. Double personal foul signal to report a full timeout
11. Thirty second timeout signal pointing thumbs to shoulders with pinkies out
12. Hammering the fists on hips for a blocking foul
13. Travel signal for a throw-in designated spot violation
14. Lazy little fist bump to start the clock
15. Running hand up and down the line to indicate out-of-bounds violation
16. Safe signal to communicate no foul
17. Commonly indicating with two fingers that the goal is for two points, not three
18. Pointing “on the floor” to indicate the player has not started his shooting motion
19. Inbounding and covering side of mouth like coughing when blowing whistle
20. Frankenstein Creeping Death/Zombie signal for “over the back”

Mark Padgett Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:55am

You forgot one.

21. Partner not using any signal at all and allowing game to go into overtime. :mad:

BillyMac Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:59am

You Caught Me Red Fisted ...
 
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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 645967)
Hammering the fists on hips for a blocking foul.

Guilty. I'm so ashamed. I ran out of gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. It wasn't my fault, I swear to God. (Apologies to "Joliet Jake", A/K/A, John Belushi)

Do I have to turn in my patch?


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