Those mean, mean officials!

[rockyroad]

I guess Mr. Parrish, the MVC Commish, the coach, and the others didn't see the latest memo from John Adams...


TO: NCAA Divisions I, II and III Coordinators of Men’s Basketball Officials.

FROM: John W. Adams, National Coordinator of Men’s Basketball Officiating.

SUBJECT: Bulletin No. 1 and December 8, 2009, Teleconference Follow-Up.

1. So far this season, there seems to be an unwillingness to address shameful sideline behavior by coaches. I observed unacceptable behavior over Thanksgiving weekend that went unpunished, time after time. I attribute it to how some of the early season tournaments are assigned and also the unwillingness of some officials to ever address egregious sideline antics. Please remind the officials you assign, no matter what the venue, that you expect them to be fair and enforce all the rules evenly
throughout the game. Members of the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Committee, NCAA staff, the regional advisors and I are constantly monitoring games and noting the names of officials who refuse
to address or penalize unacceptable side line behavior. Quite honestly, I thought this issue was behind us. Please stress to the officials you coordinate that their job is not to be “nice guys” but rather
to create and manage a fair environment from 30 minutes before the game starts until the conclusion of the game. Please support those officials that handle things the “right way.”

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I guess Mr. Parrish, the MVC Commish, the coach, and the others didn't see the latest memo from John Adams...


TO: NCAA Divisions I, II and III Coordinators of Men’s Basketball Officials.

FROM: John W. Adams, National Coordinator of Men’s Basketball Officiating.

SUBJECT: Bulletin No. 1 and December 8, 2009, Teleconference Follow-Up.

1. So far this season, there seems to be an unwillingness to address shameful sideline behavior by coaches. I observed unacceptable behavior over Thanksgiving weekend that went unpunished, time after time. I attribute it to how some of the early season tournaments are assigned and also the unwillingness of some officials to ever address egregious sideline antics. Please remind the officials you assign, no matter what the venue, that you expect them to be fair and enforce all the rules evenly
throughout the game. Members of the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Committee, NCAA staff, the regional advisors and I are constantly monitoring games and noting the names of officials who refuse
to address or penalize unacceptable side line behavior. Quite honestly, I thought this issue was behind us. Please stress to the officials you coordinate that their job is not to be “nice guys” but rather
to create and manage a fair environment from 30 minutes before the game starts until the conclusion of the game. Please support those officials that handle things the “right way.”

Adams can pontificate all he wants, but reality is something entirely other.

I'm being squeezed out of a conference (it seems) because I took care of some egregious behavior. I called a late game technical last season when a coach refused to give me a substitute after a disqualifying foul, even after we had a second horn. While I can't be certain this is why I'm getting the squeeze, it's the only possible thing I can point to from last season.

So people have a choice to make. They can work their 120 game regular season schedules (like Steve Welmer) or they can sit home during non-conference stuff and potentially even conference stuff (since the commissioners may not use you anymore if you TCB and the coach whines enough).

If the NCAA took over the assigning, then Adams could talk as though he has some actual authority or control over the regular season. Till then, he can only withhold tournament assignments.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Adams can pontificate all he wants, but reality is something entirely other.

I'm being squeezed out of a conference (it seems) because I took care of some egregious behavior. I called a late game technical last season when a coach refused to give me a substitute after a disqualifying foul, even after we had a second horn. While I can't be certain this is why I'm getting the squeeze, it's the only possible thing I can point to from last season.

So people have a choice to make. They can work their 120 game regular season schedules (like Steve Welmer) or they can sit home during non-conference stuff and potentially even conference stuff (since the commissioners may not use you anymore if you TCB and the coach whines enough).

If the NCAA took over the assigning, then Adams could talk as though he has some actual authority or control over the regular season. Till then, he can only withhold tournament assignments.

You can believe me when I tell you that you are preaching to the choir. I am no longer working any NCAA ball due to the fact that I did TCB in a game last year. (Team did not have roster/starters turned in to the scorer by 10 min. At 12 min, I personally went and pounded on their locker room door and told the coach it needed to be turned in. Coach said it would be turned in when it was turned in, which ended up being with less than 1 min. on the clock. So we started the game with the T) The supervisor then called me and reamed me for it, and demanded that I call my partners and tell them that "I f@cked up". I refused to do that, and so I am no longer on that supervisor's roster.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

You can believe me when I tell you that you are preaching to the choir. I am no longer working any NCAA ball due to the fact that I did TCB in a game last year. (Team did not have roster/starters turned in to the scorer by 10 min. At 12 min, I personally went and pounded on their locker room door and told the coach it needed to be turned in. Coach said it would be turned in when it was turned in, which ended up being with less than 1 min. on the clock. So we started the game with the T) The supervisor then called me and reamed me for it, and demanded that I call my partners and tell them that "I f@cked up". I refused to do that, and so I am no longer on that supervisor's roster.

Wow. Just wow. The NCAA powers to be should hear that story. Like it would matter.

In the end, I'm OK with everything I did, too. I may not work that particular conference, but I've picked up 3 more in my efforts to replace those dates and I may be better off in the long run.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Wow. Just wow. The NCAA powers to be should hear that story. Like it would matter.

In the end, I'm OK with everything I did, too. I may not work that particular conference, but I've picked up 3 more in my efforts to replace those dates and I may be better off in the long run.

That's the right attitude to have and I commend you for it. Wish I could say that I was in the same place as you! Maybe in time...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That's the right attitude to have and I commend you for it. Wish I could say that I was in the same place as you! Maybe in time...

Oh, I'm still angry, mainly because nobody has the balls to say exactly why I am not being scheduled. But life has to go on, so I'm working at getting the number of dates I want without those games.

In other words, I understand why the D-1 big-time guys don't whack people that deserve it at times. No good deed (it seems) goes unpunished.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

You can believe me when I tell you that you are preaching to the choir. I am no longer working any NCAA ball due to the fact that I did TCB in a game last year. (Team did not have roster/starters turned in to the scorer by 10 min. At 12 min, I personally went and pounded on their locker room door and told the coach it needed to be turned in. Coach said it would be turned in when it was turned in, which ended up being with less than 1 min. on the clock. So we started the game with the T) The supervisor then called me and reamed me for it, and demanded that I call my partners and tell them that "I f@cked up". I refused to do that, and so I am no longer on that supervisor's roster.

So, in this conversation did your supervisor come right out and say that you should have not enforced the rule? Is he on the record with that?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

So, in this conversation did your supervisor come right out and say that you should have not enforced the rule? Is he on the record with that?

Yes...and then told others they better not f@ck it up like I did.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Yes...and then told others they better not f@ck it up like I did.

Wow, that's amazing. I had a JuCo supervisor who dinged my Crew Chief b/c he did not check the book until the 7:00 mark.
Did your supervisor also say not to assess administrative T's for any bookkeeping infractions?


I remember a few years ago an ACC ref got "suspended" (or whatever the punishment was) when he called a 'T' on NC State in the ACC tourney for violating 10-2 art. 5c "After a team warning has been issued, failure to have the court ready for play after the final horn to end any timeout." after several incidents of spilling water on the court during times-out.

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Yes...and then told others they better not f@ck it up like I did.

Pretty stupid. That supervisor does not deserve to have you on his roster and the schools and players are losing out.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

You can believe me when I tell you that you are preaching to the choir. I am no longer working any NCAA ball due to the fact that I did TCB in a game last year. (Team did not have roster/starters turned in to the scorer by 10 min. At 12 min, I personally went and pounded on their locker room door and told the coach it needed to be turned in. Coach said it would be turned in when it was turned in, which ended up being with less than 1 min. on the clock. So we started the game with the T) The supervisor then called me and reamed me for it, and demanded that I call my partners and tell them that "I f@cked up". I refused to do that, and so I am no longer on that supervisor's roster.

At least you can't be called a coward!

A certain poster has newfound respect for you.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

At least you can't be called a coward!

A certain poster has newfound respect for you.

I don't think that word has ever been applied to me...but thanks.

[amusedofficial]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Members of the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Committee, NCAA staff, the regional advisors and I are constantly monitoring games and noting the names of officials who refuse
to address or penalize unacceptable side line behavior.

Oh no! Not double secret probation!