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When is enough ... enough
bas2456 gave his first T recently. I am a 3 year official and have only given 1 (in my first year). My partner says I take too much s_ _ _ from coaches - I will admit I am having trouble deciding when they have pissed and moaned too much... help or advice...
Had a game Friday - boys JV - my partner and I called a good game in our opinion - but the coaches *****ed non stop most of the game - just about every call... getting real tired of it! 
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 09:26am
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If you're getting tired of it, you're taking too much.
It doesn't necessarily mean you need to call more Ts, but you may need to take a more direct approach in addressing a coach who is chirping way too much. Early in the game, a statement that indicates that you're not going to listen to his complaining all night (said in a professional way that works for you) is more than appropriate - it sounds like it's needed. Then, if he continues, you have to be willing to follow up with a T.
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 09:53am
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 10:02am
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This is a very personal thing. I had a coach on Saturday that complained about a double whistle that I had, where the ball came my area and I made the call in the lane. The coach was out of the box and I reported the foul. Immediately after the foul call, I went up to him and said; "If you are going to say anything to me about a call, it better be in this box" as I walked him back to the box. He later then said to me, "The other coach is out of the box, why don't you say anything to him?" I said back to him, "He is coaching and has not said a word to me.....when he stops coaching, I will address him too." I did not hear another word from this coach about anything. And this was so early in the game, I honestly thought hard about popping him. Now if he had not adhered to me comments, he would have got a T early. I was honestly tired of him already, but felt I could handle it another way. This comes with time and experience to know what to do and what to say and what is too far for you. I could have stuck him and next time he might not get much of a pass, but considering everything, I handled it the way I felt I needed to. I did this by having enough of his crap. I just did not need to do anything.
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 12:37pm
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 01:25pm
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 01:29pm
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 02:04pm
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A lot of times, especially at the lower levels, once you whack the coach, they start coaching better and the team starts to do better. For this reason, I started viewing the T as a favor to a struggling team. If the coach is yipping more than coaching, do him a favor. THen if he keeps yipping and you have to toss him, you're doing EVERYONE a favor -- his kids, the fans, the other team and your partner. Usually, the assistant is a LOT more self--controlled, if only for self-preservation. Then the game can move forward in an orderly way. Don't see it as a last resort, but as a tool that can make the game better.
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 10:12am
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For me, and it was the first time I had to deal with it, enough was enough when I said it was. The coach in this situation was vocal all game up until this point. Then I told him I had heard enough. He kept talking so I gave him a technical.
I hope that in the future, I can avoid giving technicals, because nobody likes to deal with them. The trick, as JRutledge has pointed out, is assessing each situation separately. The way I take it, is if you can avoid it by talking with the coach and saying, look, enough is enough, then great. Sometimes you might have to whack him early to get him to stop.
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 10:55am
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Here is my gauge - when the actions of the coach 'helping/questioning' affect my concentration I deal with it. If it continues, I apply a simple, proven administrative method that starts with a 'T'
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 11:11am
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IMO, you need to address it in some manner; doesn't necessarily equate to giving a 'T'.
I had a coach Saturday who was getting on my nerves. Whining the whole 1st quarter even though his team was up by 10 AND the foul count was in his favor. After the 1st quarter when I went to the table he started to approach me about "contact on both ends, blah, blah, blah". I cut him off before he could finish and told him that "this is not a conversation we are going to have". He tried me one more time in the 2nd quarter on block call he didn't like. I ended that conversation ratherly tersely. Didn't hear from him the rest of the game. You need to remember you are the authority figure in the game. Sometimes you just need to take charge.
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A-hole formerly known as BNR Last edited by Raymond; Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 12:09pm.
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Mon Dec 14, 2009, 11:44am
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There's an old saying that the purpose of a technical is to stop bad behavior, and if you can stop the bad behavior without issuing the T, you're just that much ahead.
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