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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 12:02pm
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I hope you learn something from that experience. Keep it simple, that is BS.

What was the final score of the game?
What was the score at the time of this play?
Were you prepared to throw a coach out for this?

If I was the coach who had points taken off the board you might as well have called for security and you would have had to beat me to a phone to call your assigner. Six eyes and only two are fifty/fifty on the play. A classic example of what I was told several years ago: we should make errors of omission instead of errors of commission.
I've missed my share of calls and will continue to do so before I hang it up, but to me it's not good game management in this situation. I'll go so far as to say that if we all saw it and didn't call it, too late, we're moving on.

Team who had points taken off was up by 8-9. They won game comfortably by 10.

Never thought of coach repercussions at the time. Filed away.....
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 12:12pm
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I've missed my share of calls and will continue to do so before I hang it up, but to me it's not good game management in this situation. I'll go so far as to say that if we all saw it and didn't call it, too late, we're moving on.

Team who had points taken off was up by 8-9. They won game comfortably by 10.

Never thought of coach repercussions at the time. Filed away.....
Did you call your assigner about this play? Even if the coach won by 10 points, you may be risking it by not telling the assigner. IMO this is a situation where you don't want your assigner blind-sided by a phone call from the coach.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 12:41pm
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Did you call your assigner about this play? Even if the coach won by 10 points, you may be risking it by not telling the assigner. IMO this is a situation where you don't want your assigner blind-sided by a phone call from the coach.

Tight knit little group on these games. Assignor not an issue. Politically best to let it rest.

Coach a non factor also.


Really just looking for thoughts going forward on this, both partners are very good officials.

Had something similar a few years ago. Free throw and I'm lead, shot misses, bounces high and is rebounded and fumbled out of bounds by A2. Just before I give ball to B(A) now going other way, trail comes running in and tells us coach said it hit the wiring, both of us look at him and say let's go........

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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 01:26pm
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Tight knit little group on these games. Assignor not an issue. Politically best to let it rest.

Coach a non factor also.


Really just looking for thoughts going forward on this, both partners are very good officials.
I will take your word for it...but:
  1. Politics shouldn't have anything to do with it. This is still communication about something that happened in your game.
  2. It doesn't matter how good your partners are. If they are so good, why did they let this happen?
Since this is a public forum many of us should probably take the approach that our assigner would need to know something about this before he or she hears it from the coach. If your situation is different so be it.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 02:08pm
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I will take your word for it...but:
  1. Politics shouldn't have anything to do with it. This is still communication about something that happened in your game.
  2. It doesn't matter how good your partners are. If they are so good, why did they let this happen?
Since this is a public forum many of us should probably take the approach that our assigner would need to know something about this before he or she hears it from the coach. If your situation is different so be it.

Thanks for your comments...........
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 03:02pm
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I really don't like the way this was handled in the OP. What if the coach was trying to pull a fast one? Now you lost all cred w him
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 05:03pm
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...during your pregame, instead of just standing out there looking pretty, check out some things.

One of the things you can look at is how the wire, that hangs down in front of the backboard, reacts when a shot is taken. (if there is a wire of course)

Many times this wire "wiggles" after a shot hits the rim. I've seen shots hit the rim, bounce up, and then go in...as we all have...but, I've also heard coaches say that the ball hit the wire...when if fact, all that happen was the vibration from the shot made the wire "wiggle".

Therefore, I would not take much creed in a coach telling me if the ball hit the wire...the crew needs to be the ones who make this decision...if they missed it, they missed it.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 12:33pm
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How do you replace didn't see it with maybe it happened and call that "getting it right"? :baffled:
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 12:39pm
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[QUOTE=Back In The Saddle;641721]How do you replace didn't see it with maybe it happened and call that "getting it right"? :baffled:



You're preaching to the choir.
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