Communication issue

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by Smitty

This is really irrelevant. There are plenty of crappy refs who love the game. With that said, there are two sides to every story. I would take the OP with a grain of salt without knowing what really happened in the game.

You said the same thing in your post that js1969 said in his post. If his is irrelevant, so is yours.

(Perhaps that makes my post irrelevant).

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

You said the same thing in your post that js1969 said in his post. If his is irrelevant, so is yours.

(Perhaps that makes my post irrelevant).

I took his statement to imply that most of us love the game, therefore we are good refs. So I was attempting to say just the opposite - just because you love the game doesn't make you a good ref. Perhaps my statement is irrelevant as well. All that matters are the refs in this particular game and none of us have anything to go on other than a coach's, probably biased, perspective.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jvcoach03

I have 1 technical - and been warned 3 times to sit down,.

Assuming you're in a coaching box state (not a "seat belt" state) there is no such rule that allows an official to "warn" you to sit down. The only time a head coach has to sit down is after he receives a technical foul.

[zm1283]

The OP is one of the reasons that not many coaches will complain about you calling too much, especially if they know the game is physical. Blow the whistle, be consistent, and you won't have many problems.

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by jvcoach03

Anyway - We played in a game last night that became VERY physical. I asked my captains to talk to the lead official because play was pretty bad around the hoop. so they asked if the official could watch physical play under the basket.

The response - loud enough for the bench to hear - "there is nothing to watch for- IF there was I would call it"

as the game progressed on there is a girl with a Major concussion, one with an elbow so swollen that she can't bend it, one with torn tendons in her shoulder and about 5 others that where all iced up at the end of the game (not all on my team)

When the elbow girl was thrown to the floor by her jersey right in front of the lead official I of course complained. She said there was no foul and threatened to throw me out. (no T given - No warning - Not asked to sit down)

What would be proper procedure to approach the association about this ref and this incident? or if I have this official again how do I properly approach them about handling very rough game play without putting them in the position of being on the defensive?

The official appears to be very defensive. He'll be a JV official for the rest of his life.

Best way to handle this? Show your AD the tape of the game and specifically describe the safety issues that occurred during the game, combined with the official being unprofessionally defensive about it. The AD will either takec are of it, or not.

Have that official again? Not worth your time to even try to communicate with him. Make your decisions accordingly as to your behvior and tactics.

[ga314ref]

Originally Posted by jvcoach03

I need advice from some different officials -

Background - I am a JV coach - and I am a little loud - doesn't mean rude - but loud. I yell plays, directions, encouragements and corrections to my players. And sometimes I am a little loud with officials - (and before you get judgemental in 12 years as a HS coach I have 1 technical - and been warned 3 times to sit down and zip it - okay maybe 4)

Anyway - We played in a game last night that became VERY physical. I asked my captains to talk to the lead official because play was pretty bad around the hoop. so they asked if the official could watch physical play under the basket.

The response - loud enough for the bench to hear - "there is nothing to watch for- IF there was I would call it"

as the game progressed on there is a girl with a Major concussion, one with an elbow so swollen that she can't bend it, one with torn tendons in her shoulder and about 5 others that where all iced up at the end of the game (not all on my team)

When the elbow girl was thrown to the floor by her jersey right in front of the lead official I of course complained. She said there was no foul and threatened to throw me out. (no T given - No warning - Not asked to sit down)

What would be proper procedure to approach the association about this ref and this incident? or if I have this official again how do I properly approach them about handling very rough game play without putting them in the position of being on the defensive?

Thanks for any input

You should get together with your AD and contact the assignors. Be prepared to present them with videotapes and any notes you might have made. At the least, they'll talk to the officials involved to get their points-of-view. They may decide they shouldn't be assigned to any more of your games. If they do nothing, your state should have a mechanism for you to follow regarding these issues.