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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 04:33pm
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Would someone please show "exactly" where in the Rule or Caseplay book the answer to this simple question that our association started throwing around.

Caseplay: Along the endline in the backcourt, A1 inbounds the ball. No other players are paying attention and the ball eventually rolls out-of-bounds along the sideline without ever being touched. Where does Team B have the ball for a throw-in?

They are saying the throw-in is where the ball went out-of-bounds, not where it was originally inbounded even though no player touched the ball. Which is it since I can't seem to locate it in the books?

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I must admit, I'm surprised an association with, I'm guessing, more than a handful of officials would not know this one.

I was working a Varsity game last year and B1 kicks the ball under A's basket, whistle is blown immediately and official signals a kicked ball as it rolls out of bounds on opposite endline, where he signals the spot throw-in shall take place. It took a huddle to convince him he was wrong.

Brain fart as he's a good official.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 04:35pm
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I must admit, I'm surprised an association with, I'm guessing, more than a handful of officials would not know this one.

I was working a Varsity game last year and B1 kicks the ball under A's basket, whistle is blown immediately and official signals a kicked ball as it rolls out of bounds on opposite endline, where he signals the spot throw-in shall take place. It took a huddle to convince him he was wrong.

Brain fart as he's a good official.
It's like the backcourt violation, people tend to want to inbound it at the division line regardless of where it was touched.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 04:50pm
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It's like the backcourt violation, people tend to want to inbound it at the division line regardless of where it was touched.
Hadn't thought about that nor have I seen it kicked lately. Usually, BC happens at or near division line it seems to me.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 04:58pm
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Hadn't thought about that nor have I seen it kicked lately. Usually, BC happens at or near division line it seems to me.
It's been a while, but I've seen it kicked occasionally. I have never seen an official kick the OP though.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 05:02pm
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It's been a while, but I've seen it kicked occasionally. I have never seen an official kick the OP though.

It's one of those calls that everyone wants to let you know where the spot is, as if you don't.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 05:39pm
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It's one of those calls that everyone wants to let you know where the spot is, as if you don't.
We had it Monday, and silence from the visiting team could almost be heard over the roar of the crowd and home coach.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 07:34pm
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It's like the backcourt violation, people tend to want to inbound it at the division line regardless of where it was touched.
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Hadn't thought about that nor have I seen it kicked lately. Usually, BC happens at or near division line it seems to me.
fullor30,
You are correct in MOST cases, BUT the typical case Shaqs is talking about is the case where a ball is directed into the backcourt off of the offensive team -- frequently a ball bounding off a knee or foot well into the backcourt or a last-touch-first-touch that deflects well into the backcourt.

In many situations, the offensive player will attempt to shield the ball hoping that the defender will touch the ball allowing the offensive player to legally regain possession. During this time, the ball continues to roll or bounce away from the division line. In some cases, the ball is not illegally touched by the offensive team until the ball is well into the backcourt.
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Exactly. Had one of those (almost two) ther night. My partner correctly spotted the first. The second would have been mine and I was ready to spot it on the endline, but the offense just let it go out of bounds to run as much time as possible off the clock.

Occasionally, you'll see a player hustle all the way to the end line to hit the ball hoping the throwin will be at the division line for a BC violation.
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