Weird new info in coach DUI case

[Mark Padgett]

Things just get stranger and stranger in the David Adelman case.

Private eye hired by parent at center of Lincoln High coach's trial | Steve Duin - – OregonLive.com

[Mark Padgett]

This was the lead story on the local 6:00 news here in Portland. Gee - maybe I shouldn't have given him that technical back when he was in 5th grade.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Things just get stranger and stranger in the David Adelman case.

Private eye hired by parent at center of Lincoln High coach's trial | Steve Duin - – OregonLive.com

Pretty slimey on the part of the parents.

[ODJ]

That is amazing. Hey Pop, maybe your kid just sucks at basketball!

The Supreme Court just ruled on a similar case that the cops must see the poor driving to pull the driver over. A caller's tip not enough. Considering why there was a call to 911 in the first place, I can see this getting tossed.

[budjones05]

Some parents have too much money

[Matt]

Originally Posted by ODJ

The Supreme Court just ruled on a similar case that the cops must see the poor driving to pull the driver over.

No, it didn't. It refused to hear an appeal in which the Virginia Supreme Court ruled as such. SCOTUS has consistently ruled that reasonable suspicion (not probable cause, to which the article keeps referring) is the threshold for TLE stops.

Originally Posted by ODJ

A caller's tip not enough. Considering why there was a call to 911 in the first place, I can see this getting tossed.

No, it won't. Even if the tip comes from an illegal or immoral action on the part of the tipper, unless the tipper was acting under the color of law, the tip is not presumed invalid.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Things just get stranger and stranger in the David Adelman case.

Private eye hired by parent at center of Lincoln High coach's trial | Steve Duin - – OregonLive.com

It's all so , so, Northern Cal like.

My favorite reader quote was calling the cops if your neighbor is using drugs.

Originally Posted by Matt

No, it won't. Even if the tip comes from an illegal or immoral action on the part of the tipper, unless the tipper was acting under the color of law, the tip is not presumed invalid.

Not all private investigators practice under the color of the law. There are rogue ones out there whose actions have been thrown out of court because they were not certified by the state to work as private investigators.

[rockyroad]

I think maybe some of you guys are missing the point. These parents went through the proper channels - they went to the AD, the Principal, the school board - not because their kid wasn't "getting playing time", but because the coach was and is a known alcoholic who gets behind the wheel of his car drunk on a regular basis. When the school - which has a pretty interesting line of these kinds of problems - wouldn't do anything about it, the parents took steps.

Do I agree with the parents - no, not really. But I can understand why they did it. Would any of you want this clown coaching your kids, telling them that if they break the rules on drinking they will get kicked off the team?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Not all private investigators practice under the color of the law. There are rogue ones out there whose actions have been thrown out of court because they were not certified by the state to work as private investigators.

NO private investigators work under color of law. If they did, they would not be private.

"Color of law" refers to the public trust placed in sworn officials to uphold the law. PIs, by definition, operate outside of it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

There are rogue ones out there whose actions have been thrown out of court because they were not certified by the state.

Like this one ...

[Juulie Downs]

I just like the part where Rick Adelman comes in and tells parents to leave his little baby alone. I mean, I'd think Junior would be humiliated and tell his dad, "Back off!" Too weird.

[JoeT]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

I just like the part where Rick Adelman comes in and tells parents to leave his little baby alone. I mean, I'd think Junior would be humiliated and tell his dad, "Back off!" Too weird.

I thought that too.... It's a special irony that the method of countering unreasonable parent involvement is to send your dad over to talk to them!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

I just like the part where Rick Adelman comes in and tells parents to leave his little baby alone. I mean, I'd think Junior would be humiliated and tell his dad, "Back off!" Too weird.

This is off topic, but years ago, I had a conversation with Rick Adelman when he was the Blazer coach. David was participating in our rec league no-cut tryouts and Rick was observing. At this particular session, there were about 200 kids on the court. I went over to Rick and said, "This has got to be your worst nightmare." He said, "What do you mean?" I replied, "200 players, and they're all unrestricted free agents!" He chuckled and said, "Yeah, that would be a nightmare, all right."