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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 03:40pm
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That is how they determined the ruling. It is a typical NFHS ruling a philosophy. Someone will be around to change a rule again and make it more confusing and less obvious. I agree completely that it isn't supported 100% by the rules.
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That is how they determined the ruling. It is a typical NFHS ruling a philosophy. Someone will be around to change a rule again and make it more confusing and less obvious. I agree completely that it isn't supported 100% by the rules.
That's an understatement. Our problem is that it's actually contradicted by the rule.
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 04:05pm
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That's an understatement. Our problem is that it's actually contradicted by the rule.
I agree with you guys. So how do you call this in a game situation? (Who gets the first "right thing to do" comment?)
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 04:07pm
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I agree with you guys. So how do you call this in a game situation? (Who gets the first "right thing to do" comment?)
When faced with an interp that contradicts a rule, I think it's safe to call it by the rule.
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 04:08pm
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When faced with an interp that contradicts a rule, I think it's safe to call it by the rule.
You sir, are a model of consistency.
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 04:48pm
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When faced with an interp that contradicts a rule, I think it's safe to call it by the rule.
Interps are not rules, yet are rules. Discuss.
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 08:59pm
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If B intercepts the ball in A's frontcourt and throws a bullet towards B's frontcourt for a break-away, but A-1 leaps high into the air a step in front of the division line (in A's frontcourt), and then falls or lands in A's backcourt from the momentum of the leap, isn't that a backcourt violation on A? Exactly same as the interp--the exception being a deflected touch by B, instead of a pass. Either way, A-1, regardless of where he catches the ball, is the last to touch it in A's frontcourt and when he touches down in A's backcourt, it is a violation. I think the interp is 100% correct.....IMHO....
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 09:18pm
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 10:20pm
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If B intercepts the ball in A's frontcourt and throws a bullet towards B's frontcourt for a break-away, but A-1 leaps high into the air a step in front of the division line (in A's frontcourt), and then falls or lands in A's backcourt from the momentum of the leap, isn't that a backcourt violation on A?
You don't make it clear when the A player gains possession of the ball, but if it is when he is airborne, then no, it is not a violation. An airborne player of the team not in possession is allowed to jump from the front court, catch the ball in the air and land in the backcourt. 9-9-3 is your reference.

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Either way, A-1, regardless of where he catches the ball, is the last to touch it in A's frontcourt
Is he though? I don't think he is as he is located in the backcourt. The touch occurs in the backcourt.
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 10:54pm
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If B intercepts the ball in A's frontcourt and throws a bullet towards B's frontcourt for a break-away, but A-1 leaps high into the air a step in front of the division line (in A's frontcourt), and then falls or lands in A's backcourt from the momentum of the leap, isn't that a backcourt violation on A? Exactly same as the interp--the exception being a deflected touch by B, instead of a pass. Either way, A-1, regardless of where he catches the ball, is the last to touch it in A's frontcourt and when he touches down in A's backcourt, it is a violation. I think the interp is 100% correct.....IMHO....
Um, no, it's not a violation because there's a clear exemption for a defensive player to be able to catch the ball in the air and land in the BC. Otherwise it would be a violation, but not for the reason you cite. It would be a violation because he held the ball with FC status and landed in the BC. The scenario you're looking for is for a player holding the ball with both feet in the FC, who then pivots into the BC.

The applicable rule for the play in the interp says the team must be the last to touch the ball "before" it went into the BC. The ball gained BC status at the moment it touched A2, and the last person to touch it before that was B. No violation.
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Old Wed Nov 25, 2009, 06:54am
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If B intercepts the ball in A's frontcourt and throws a bullet towards B's frontcourt for a break-away, but A-1 leaps high into the air a step in front of the division line (in A's frontcourt), and then falls or lands in A's backcourt from the momentum of the leap, isn't that a backcourt violation on A? Exactly same as the interp--the exception being a deflected touch by B, instead of a pass. Either way, A-1, regardless of where he catches the ball, is the last to touch it in A's frontcourt and when he touches down in A's backcourt, it is a violation. I think the interp is 100% correct.....IMHO....
No. B1 intercepted, threw a pass...who now has team control?
A1 cannot commit a BC violation without team control.
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 11:18pm
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When faced with an interp that contradicts a rule, I think it's safe to call it by the rule.

I feel the same way about a certain case play.
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