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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 11:15am
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4.22 Goal tending occurs when.....an opponent of the free thrower touches the ball outside the cylinder during a free-throw attempt.

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A free throw starts when the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower
I like the attempt, but I'm pretty sure that's not what they meant.

BillyMac will like that the OP could be an example of a T under 10-3-5
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 11:20am
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I have no problem with omitting the goal tending, as long as you give him both free throw attempts prior to the administration of the technical.

If you take away his attempt you have to count the point as goal tending.

Any objections?
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 11:42am
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Just to be a contrarian, how about disconcertion (a stretch, but using 2-3 here works) the first time with a threat of a T? Give the ball back to the shooter, give the delayed violation signal, and let him have two cracks at the free throw.
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I have no problem with omitting the goal tending, as long as you give him both free throw attempts prior to the administration of the technical.

If you take away his attempt you have to count the point as goal tending.

Any objections?
If you call the goal tending, you automatically have a T anyway.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 12:00pm
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a player shall not....
10.9 Goaltend during a free throw

you can debate whether or not it is a FT attempt and goaltending on the OP, however even if it isn't goal tending the act still falls under the unsporting act category and you'd have a technical.


Not quite the picture I had painted in the OP but still interesting.

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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 12:16pm
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Obviously the free throw has begun, so that's not the question. I would say the free throw "attempt" has not begun, but that's an undefined word. My thought is the intent of the goal tending rule here is to prevent the defense from actually blocking the free throw shot itself.

I wouldn't really argue with someone who called it goal tending, however. I can see going any one of three ways with this.

1. GT and the requisite TF.
2. TF for unsportsmanlike behavior.
3. Disconcertion with a warning.

I'd probably lean towards #2, but could see going either way depending on the situation.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 12:39pm
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Years ago in Indiana, there was a team that, if they stepped in the lane way early, would continue in the lane and actually guard the free-thrower. The thinking was, the opponent was going to be awarded another throw on a miss anyway, so let's make sure he misses. Got away with only a substitute FT penalty a few times.

As I understand it, after one or two well-placed unsportsmanlike T's later in the season, it stopped.

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I'd have had my players (if I was a coach) shoot into the defender's hand.
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