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Old Fri Nov 13, 2009, 01:07pm
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What is exactly "comes to rest in the player's hand"?

"comes to rest in the player's hand"

Can you say that any force against the gravitation force count as comes to rest? (meaning when player make force on the ball from bottom, delaying the time that it takes the ball to fall by newton rules of gravitation)

Is it ok to dribble while you always touch the ball according to gravitational force?
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2009, 02:27pm
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"comes to rest in the player's hand"

Can you say that any force against the gravitation force count as comes to rest? (meaning when player make force on the ball from bottom, delaying the time that it takes the ball to fall by newton rules of gravitation)

Is it ok to dribble while you always touch the ball according to gravitational force?
You can say it. Most people won't understand it, imo.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2009, 07:12pm
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"comes to rest in the player's hand"
I found the following definition online for "come to rest."

to stop; to slow down and stop


If the ball stops in the dribblers hand, it is a violation. What qualifies as a stop in this case? How long is too long? Difficult to define in words.

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Kinda like pornography: can't tell you what it is, but I know it when I see it

People often say a travel is not a travel just because it looks funny. A carry sorta is a carry when it looks funny.

One point which I think is certain, and is often misunderstood, the hand does not have to be directly under the bottom of the ball in order for it to be a carry.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2009, 08:19pm
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Kinda like pornography: can't tell you what it is, but I know it when I see it.
You mean "obscenity"? Got any examples for us to check out?

In 1964, US Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart famously opined in an obscenity case that it was exceeding difficult to define obscenity, “but I know it when I see it.”
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2009, 10:50pm
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You mean "obscenity"? Got any examples for us to check out?

In 1964, US Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart famously opined in an obscenity case that it was exceeding difficult to define obscenity, “but I know it when I see it.”
Apparently you are better versed on this subject than I. I yield the floor.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2009, 08:22pm
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Can you say that any force against the gravitation force count as comes to rest? (meaning when player make force on the ball from bottom, delaying the time that it takes the ball to fall by newton rules of gravitation) Is it ok to dribble while you always touch the ball according to gravitational force?
NFHS Rule 11-1-A: g = 9.81 m/s2 = 32.2 ft/s2. Good rule to memorize.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2009, 08:56pm
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NFHS Rule 11-1-A: g = 9.81 m/s2 = 32.2 ft/s2. Good rule to memorize.
I guess I need to add an accelerometer to my equipment list. Does Honig's carry them?
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2009, 10:53pm
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NFHS Rule 11-1-A: g = 9.81 m/s2 = 32.2 ft/s2. Good rule to memorize.
I believe, and you will correct me if I am wrong, that this formula is only accurate if we ignore the resistance of the air, or the friction from passing through the atmosphere, or whatever the applicable technical terms are.
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I believe, and you will correct me if I am wrong, that this formula is only accurate if we ignore the resistance of the air, or the friction from passing through the atmosphere, or whatever the applicable technical terms are.
And let's not forget that at some point the ball may reach terminal velocity.
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Old Sat Nov 14, 2009, 01:10am
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And let's not forget that at some point the ball may reach terminal velocity.

This experiment takes place in an airport?
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Old Sat Nov 14, 2009, 02:05am
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I believe, and you will correct me if I am wrong, that this formula is only accurate if we ignore the resistance of the air, or the friction from passing through the atmosphere, or whatever the applicable technical terms are.
And as the ball comes to rest in the dribbler's hand, those reduce to 0. They only have an effect when the ball is moving (or the air is moving relative to the ball).
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