NCAA v NFHS Free Throw Lane Violation

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And that's how mouthy officials end up being dropped from conferences.

And I'm guessing I have more experience with that notion than you do!

At being a mouthy official ?

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

At being a mouthy official or a quiet coward?

Game...


Set....




MATCH to Nevada!!!!!!

[refaholic2]

Taking this a step farther...
If the adjacent players are "arm wrestling" and there is contact...is it a foul or a violation?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by refaholic2

Taking this a step farther...
If the adjacent players are "arm wrestling" and there is contact...is it a foul or a violation?

Depends on who wins? and are we playing Alabama rules or Russian Submission?

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by refaholic2

Taking this a step farther...
If the adjacent players are "arm wrestling" and there is contact...is it a foul or a violation?

MS girls game this was happening. My partner and I started game out talking in lane telling girls "no hands" etc to try and put a stop to this. Then we remembered it was MS girls game.

So, the next time it happened and they were wrangling - partner calls a double foul. Amazingly both coaches smiled and one thanked him. Said he's tried talking to them till his tongue swelled up but they won't listen.

Went to AP. Didn't have a problem like that the rest of the game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

MS girls game this was happening. My partner and I started game out talking in lane telling girls "no hands" etc to try and put a stop to this. Then we remembered it was MS girls game.

So, the next time it happened and they were wrangling - partner calls a double foul. Amazingly both coaches smiled and one thanked him. Said he's tried talking to them till his tongue swelled up but they won't listen.

Went to AP. Didn't have a problem like that the rest of the game.

Why the AP? I assume this happened while A1 had the ball -- so the POI would be still the FT.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why the AP? I assume this happened while A1 had the ball -- so the POI would be still the FT.

Maybe it was 5 years ago?

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Maybe it was 5 years ago?

Or maybe the shooter had already shot the ball. (Team control ends on any shot attempt, no?)

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why the AP? I assume this happened while A1 had the ball -- so the POI would be still the FT.

He had bounced the ball to shooter and backed away. Ball was released from shooter's hand and was almost at the basket when I heard his whistle. We determined that since the try had started, but not been completed there was no team control and therefore no POI.

I was a little surprised by the timing of the whistle - but we came together and he explained what his whistle was for ..... I told him the ball had left the shooter's hand and that's why we went AP.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

He had bounced the ball to shooter and backed away. Ball was released from shooter's hand and was almost at the basket when I heard his whistle. We determined that since the try had started, but not been completed there was no team control and therefore no POI.

I was a little surprised by the timing of the whistle - but we came together and he explained what his whistle was for ..... I told him the ball had left the shooter's hand and that's why we went AP.

Got it (assuming the try was unsuccessful).

I'm just not sure a double foul at this poijnt really addresses the "hand fighting" before the try is released -- but it apparently worked in your case.

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

He had bounced the ball to shooter and backed away. Ball was released from shooter's hand and was almost at the basket when I heard his whistle. We determined that since the try had started, but not been completed there was no team control and therefore no POI.

The point I was making was that there WAS a try in flight.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

At being a mouthy official ?

The first...the second is not a name that has ever been applied to me that I know of.
And see, I even added a smilie just like you did!